Food Nutrition & Behavior Science🧪🌱 Protein Transition | Chef-AuthoršŸ‘©šŸ½ā€šŸ³ ā€œsomething of a food polymathā€ —Feed the PeoplešŸ“ Econ groupie! Opinions=mine

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The arguments against the foie gras ban: 1. We only torture them for 3 weeks 2. Other things are also torture 3. People should be able to choose torture 4. Sometimes it’s made w/ 1/2 the torture 5. Is this enough torture to care about? 6. Other bad things happen 7. The children!
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Calling camping on sidewalks anti-social & acting like this isn’t a rich man’s take as a developer and gentrifier. He wants them ā€œtaken care of…in mental institutionsā€ while espousing the Reagan era language that took away all support. We fail an increasing number of people.
If you truly *love* American cities, you MUST support strict enforcement of laws against anti-social behavior. Paying bus fares, red light cameras, camping on sidewalks, smoking on trains, off-leash dogs, etc etc If people want to do whatever they want, that’s FINE in the suburbs or the country on your own land. But it, fundamentally, cannot work in our densest places where people all have to co-operate in proximity. If we do not, it means cities will continue to be primarily for those able to avoid the annoyances ... the wealthy and/or child-free.
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To me; this behavior, this rhetoric, is anti-social.
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20 countries, 1 US state and 4 US cities ban Foie Gras. DC can and should be next. Many should follow.
Replying to @ChefSuziGerber
Pay no attention dear readers, to the extreme ā€œveganistsā€ like Suzannah. This isn’t about ducks or geese. This is about gaining a foothold to controlling your diet for their twisted worldview and vanity by targeting a misunderstood luxury boutique item. First this then…
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For those who act like this is all a clever ruse to create a basis for banning all meat or animal farming see the below ā€œlimiting principleā€. While some may want slaughter abolished it needs to be possible in a civilized society to see distinction between slaughter & torture.
Replying to @batterystaple42
I see a fundamental distinction between torture & killing. For those who view meat as essential, killing is unavoidable. However, torture is actually never required & thus is avoidable. Ergo we should seek animal farming methods without torture as much as possible.
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I propose a spectrum where: 10- abject torture of animals (sadism) 9- abject torture of animals for pleasure with small marginal utility (eg foie gras and veal) 8- extreme conventional industrial farming 7- industrial farming systems 6- welfare enhanced welfare systems …
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5- mixed systems 4- extensive systems 3- pastoral systems 2- backyard or high welfare pastoral 1- hunting 0- sanctuaries
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Food and Politics that many people don’t have the privilege to ignore: 1. SNAP 2. Nutrition Panels, Allergens and Ingredients 3. School Lunch Program 4. Restaurant food safety ratings 5. TARIFFS 6. RECALLS and TRACEABILITY 7. Food deserts and swamps 8. Farm subsidies
People don’t want their food or their restaurants to be politicized. The vast majority of people do NOT mix politics and food. DC has been through this before. I-77 was a solution in search of a problem. The pandemic broke the local industry to the point that folks gave up when I-82 came around. And now we are in a situation where neighborhood restaurants are closing regularly. These outside voices don’t represent the priorities of DC. And they don’t care about our city.
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I’m going to now add the following specious at best arguments: 8. It’s Francophobia or bigotry to ban it 9. Fight me, bro. 10. It’s tasty tho 11. It isn’t torture; trust me bro.
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I’m going to now add the following specious at best arguments: 8. It’s Francophobia or bigotry to ban it 9. Fight me, bro. 10. It’s tasty tho 11. It isn’t torture; trust me bro.
The arguments against the foie gras ban: 1. We only torture them for 3 weeks 2. Other things are also torture 3. People should be able to choose torture 4. Sometimes it’s made w/ 1/2 the torture 5. Is this enough torture to care about? 6. Other bad things happen 7. The children!
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These have all actually been said to me today for the record.
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exactly why veganism is intersectional. the current food system is simply inequitable. we manage to feed 80+billion land animals yearly while 600+million humans face chronic hunger. if you are left-wing, you should be a part of a movement pushing for systemic food justice.
For everyone saying "we can't work on meat reduction because we need to work on hunger / the economy / human rights", I have good news for you! Lowering meat reduction will ALSO help those things!
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Suzi Gerber, PhD retweeted
Jordan isn't a lawyer and evidently cannot parse legal text. His stated concern about overbreadth -- that this initiative would ban the sale of basically all fowl in DC -- is misplaced and downstream of his professional limitations.
Guys, this foie gras ban is so sloppily written that it would ban Jewish delis from selling chopped chicken liver. Absolutely vote no on this shit.
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This is the most honest take- people simply don’t want to be told what they can and can’t eat. Food somehow occupies a different part of our minds when it comes to right and wrong, and importantly who decides. Somehow, sadly, this includes torture and force labor…
don’t tell me what i can eat! this is why the east coast drives me crazy, how does it impact you what i choose to order at le dip?!?!
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Hey DC do we say in the Hill or on the Hill? Asking for a friend.
I live in Capitol Hill, have for 13 years.
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Posted with permission from a DC native friend
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If you grow up in DC you say ON. If you first learn about DC on tv or associate it mostly with our nation’s capital then you say In except when referring to the govt. but the neighborhood is a hill not just that big old building.
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The timing of this can’t be a coincidence or it’s wild that this is happening at the same time as DC foie-gras-gate
You want to lose my vote in record time? Suggest that I eat liver... I'm still haunted by the revolting smell of liver cooking in my childhood kitchen.
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