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We had a really fun chat with @aschmitt and @ScottWilkinsonQ from @CignalAI about what the potential Marvell + Lumentum deal would actually mean.
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🎙️ NEW EPISODE: Why Marvell Wants Lumentum: Vertical Integration in AI Optics With Cignal AI
Recorded the morning after the $MRVL $LITE rumor broke. Our thoughts (live with no prep!)
Andrew Schmitt and Scott Wilkinson of market research firm Cignal AI join Austin and Vik to break down Marvell's potential acquisition of Lumentum. They explain how Marvell could run the "Broadcom playbook" by bundling DSPs and optics, even at the cost of competing with its own customers.
- The driver is vertical integration, not securing laser capacity. Marvell wants to control the supply chain from chips to optics to co-design better products for AI
- Marvell's DSP customers would have to compete with a vertically integrated Marvell-Lumentum, a dynamic that has already pushed some players out of coherent
- Lumentum's Optical Circuit Switches (OCS) and high-power lasers for CPO and NPO matter as much as its current-gen transceivers
- After a 4x expansion of its Indium Phosphide fab, Lumentum can supply Marvell AND keep selling lasers to the open market
- A bidding war is possible. Could the leak be intentional, to attract suitors?
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro: Marvell & Lumentum
7:38 The Vertical Integration Driver
9:17 The Channel Conflict Problem
14:58 Transceiver Value Chain
17:38 Why Would Lumentum Sell?
21:23 Lumentum's InP Capacity
24:52 The Cost of Waiting
27:00 Manufacturing Scale Is the Moat
31:30 How AI Changed Component Value
33:43 CPO: The Integration Endgame
36:50 The 'Broadcom Playbook'
38:58 Prediction: A Bidding War
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@Lumentum’s Szilard Zsigmond is joining industry leaders at @CignalAI’s Active Insight Forum. Szilard’s session will discuss the growing role of OCS across various markets and applications.
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Acacia’s Tom Williams will be kicking off @CignalAI's 3-Day Active Insight Strategy Forum on 3/10. His presentation is titled “How Optical Interconnects and Client Optics Components are Driving AI Networking Expansion.” spr.ly/6012B66n3w
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@CignalAI released a deep dive into the Optical Circuit Switching market. Polatis is supremely qualified to advise on the most suitable OCS for your application.
Read the report here: cignal.ai/2024/07/the-optica…
Cignal AI retweeted
News from OIF from our Q1 2024 meeting:
🌐 New Projects: Interoperable 1600ZR+ and Retimed Tx Linear Rx Specs EEI
👥 Guest Speaker: @aschmitt from @CignalAI
📚 White Paper: Advancing CMIS plug and play
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#OIF #OpticalNetworking #Innovation #CMIS #1600ZR+
Cignal AI retweeted
We spent time talking with folks in the industry and combing through the public information. Here's our take on the acquisition.
cignal.ai/2023/11/lumentum-b…
$LITE #cloudlight #optics #telecommunications @CignalAI
Cignal AI retweeted
Worldwide spending on optical transport hardware dropped 2% during 2Q23, according to research firm Cignal AI. #pressrelease ow.ly/N033104ROVI
Cignal AI retweeted
Linear Drive #optics offers benefits, but challenges will limit deployment, says @CignalAI bit.ly/45Df4ZL.
Cignal AI retweeted
As @CignalAI's Kyle Hollasch stated “There are now other areas delivering return on investment for coherent module vendors and this revolves around increasing baud rates.” Read more at the link below. spr.ly/6014P91RG
Cignal AI retweeted
Analyst firm reports that energy-saving Linear Drive optics will only amount to a 'small fraction of 800GbE market.'#pressrelease ow.ly/Ucgn104QEYu
Cignal AI retweeted
Verizon plans to continue using performance optimized embedded optics for ultra long haul. Learn more about their plans in this webinar recap. @Verizon spr.ly/6017PrfFT
Cignal AI retweeted
AI demand isn't enough to offset weakness in all segments of @TWSemicon business, despite 10% customer @nvidia buying 60% more QoQ. @nokia and @ericsson see weak service provider spending - except in optical.
cignal.ai/2023/07/2q23-takea…
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As the fastest ramping coherent technology to date, #400G pluggables success was enabled by industry standards. Learn how standardization and vendor interoperability of these pluggables evolved to be used across a wide range of applications. spr.ly/6017PBzOR
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"As #AccessNetworks migrate from #1G solutions to #10G solutions, #100ZR will be a critical enabling technology." @ScottWilkinsonQ , Lead Analyst for Optical Components at @CignalAI. #EFFECTPhotonics
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Cignal: 100ZR coherent pluggable deployment begins in 2024; will provide the greater uplink bandwidth needed for access network upgrades. #pressrelease ow.ly/OOWz104vYJL





















