You don’t need to be born a prodigy to build a career as an artist. What matters is believing in yourself when no one else does, being ok with sucking at first, being down to learn out loud (meaning don’t hide for 10 years until you’re “perfect”…let your audience be a part of the evolution!!!), failing forward, and ultimately refusing to quit. Over the years that compounds into a career. I think a lot of people confuse “talent” with being instantly amazing, when tbh an equally, if not more important talent is having the patience to stick with it long enough to actually get great.

I hope every up and coming artist (and established ones too tbh) sees that I don’t have the most monthly listeners in the world, my twitter and instagram aren’t just dumb popping engagement wise (in fact they’re kinda low) but I can sell out arenas because the music means something to people more than just a fun bop you don’t have to be part of the mainstream narrative/industry hype cycles, or constantly be in viral conversations, trending topics, or media discourse to have an impact on people in real life majority of the online shit is paid for and faked anyway so don’t get caught up in those metrics. make music for yourself and focus on your fans. rest of the shit will take care of itself.

Sometimes the best conversations don’t come from talking to the media, just from fans who really care. Zenab is a fan who has always asked very thoughtful questions in my discord community so I gave her the mic in real life Our live interview is out now