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Joe Rogan just got into it with Producer Jamie and veteran Bill Thompson about whether or not Elon Musk’s new $250,000 flying Tesla Roadster is fake and questions how a car that can leap over traffic could ever be street legal:
ROGAN: “There's a lot of people that paid $250,000 for the Roadster in 2017. I know a guy who did that.”
JAMIE: “Some people think the stuff about the Roadster online is not real.”
ROGAN: “It's 100% real. My friend was there.”
CONTEXT: On October 15, Tesla actually demonstrated a redesigned Roadster at a SpaceX facility in Texas.
And this wasn't just another computer-generated concept.
The prototype used SpaceX-developed compressed-gas thrusters to launch into the air, rotate, and land.
It jumped over other vehicles.
It even demonstrated driving UPSIDE DOWN using a suction system.
Tesla says the vehicle can accelerate from 0–60 MPH in UNDER ONE SECOND.
Those acceleration figures are company claims, not independent performance certification.
And the aerial maneuvers were performed WITHOUT ANYBODY INSIDE THE CAR for safety reasons.
But here's where things get interesting.
Rogan immediately asks the question millions of people are probably wondering:
HOW COULD THIS POSSIBLY BE STREET-LEGAL?
And Elon Musk doesn't exactly have a reassuring answer.
At the unveiling, Musk acknowledged that he wasn't certain the Roadster would be legal in every jurisdiction.
When asked about street legality, he responded:
“Depends on your street.”
And there's an important distinction Tesla's promotional spectacle makes easy to miss.
The company is advertising THREE DIFFERENT ROADSTER VERSIONS:
PERFORMANCE: which is a road-oriented version with a $50,000 reservation deposit.
THRUST: A more extreme version with acceleration thrusters and a $250,000 reservation deposit.
ROCKET: An invitation-only, single-seat version with a full flight system.
And that last version?
Tesla itself says the Rocket is NOT APPROVED FOR PUBLIC ROAD USE.
In other words, the version capable of the most spectacular airborne stunts isn't currently something you can legally take onto a public street.
And the $250,000 deposit for the Thrust version doesn't automatically buy you the full flying Rocket variant shown in the demonstration.
But the biggest surprise might be what's happened to customers who started this journey in 2017.
When Tesla originally unveiled the next-generation Roadster, it promised:
0–60 MPH in 1.9 seconds.
Approximately 620 MILES of range.
Production beginning in 2020.
Tesla began accepting reservations immediately.
Standard customers could put down $50,000.
Buyers seeking the original Founders Series could pay the entire $250,000 upfront.
That was NINE YEARS AGO.
And the Roadster still hasn't reached production.
Now Musk says production will begin in 2028.
If that happens, it will be ELEVEN YEARS after customers first started reserving the car.
But here's an overlooked detail.
The new Roadster Tesla is showcasing is radically different from the vehicle those early customers originally reserved.
The old design promised approximately 620 miles of range.
The redesigned vehicle is now being advertised with a range of OVER 300 MILES.
That's less than half the original headline range figure.
It's become dramatically more extreme in its acceleration and aerial capabilities, while giving up much of the range originally promised.
And the financial fine print is fascinating.
Tesla's Roadster reservation agreement says:
The final purchase price has not been established.
A reservation does not constitute an actual vehicle purchase.
IMPORTANT NOTES: Tesla cannot guarantee when the vehicle will be delivered.
And the company does NOT hold reservation funds separately in escrow or pay interest on them.
Reservations are refundable under the agreement's terms, but imagine the opportunity cost for someone who tied up $250,000 back in 2017.
9 years without receiving the car.
9 years with no interest.
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Joe Rogan breaks down why going to protests is a really bad idea.
Joe Rogan just broke down to ARMY veteran Billy Thompson why he never goes to protests:
“You get these massive groups of people that start screaming Black Lives Matter, No Kings, and Free Palestine. It creates a mob mentality where it feels like you’re at war.”
“And then you get this delusional confidence from the group where you think that setting a Starbucks on fire is the right thing to do.”
CONTEXT: Psychologists have actually studied what happens to the human mind when thousands of people start moving, chanting and experiencing intense emotions together.
And the phenomenon has a name:
COLLECTIVE EFFERVESCENCE.
It's the powerful feeling of emotional unity that can emerge when large groups synchronize their behavior.
Think about it.
Thousands of strangers marching in the same direction.
Chanting the same words.
Reacting to the same events.
Suddenly, people who have never met can begin feeling like members of one enormous collective.
And the scientific research is fascinating.
A 2022 meta-analysis examining 50 studies involving 182,738 participants found that these shared emotional experiences were strongly associated with group identification, solidarity and feelings of collective empowerment.
In other words:
THE CROWD CAN CHANGE HOW POWERFUL AN INDIVIDUAL FEELS.
But here's the critical distinction.
That psychological effect doesn't automatically produce violence.
It can also produce cooperation, mutual protection, solidarity and peaceful collective action.
And the actual protest data reveal something surprising.
Researchers at ACLED examined more than 11,000 demonstrations associated with Black Lives Matter during 2020 and early 2021.
Approximately 94% were peaceful.
The remaining 6% involved reported violence, clashes, vandalism, looting or destruction without necessarily establishing who started those incidents.
And the massive No Kings demonstrations in March 2026?
ACLED reported that MORE THAN 99% were peaceful.
So the scientific evidence does NOT support the idea that marching and chanting inherently make protesters violent.
But it does help explain something Rogan is describing.
Human behavior can change dramatically when somebody stops thinking primarily as an isolated individual and starts identifying with a larger group.
And modern crowd psychology suggests the key factor is WHAT THE GROUP BELIEVES IS ACCEPTABLE.
If the dominant expectation is peaceful protest, participants can reinforce peaceful behavior.
If destructive behavior becomes accepted or justified, some members may become willing to cross lines they wouldn't cross alone.
And there's another fascinating factor:
HOW THE CROWD IS TREATED.
Researchers studying protest violence have found that crowd conflict can escalate when people who were initially peaceful begin believing that police or an opposing group are treating everyone as a single hostile enemy.
That shared sense of confrontation can strengthen group identity and change which behaviors participants consider justified.
IMPORTANT NOTES: In a 2025 study published in Perspectives on Politics, researchers found that observers were more likely to PERCEIVE protesters as violent when demonstrations were met with a heavy police presence.
That's an extraordinary finding.
The public can interpret the same protest differently depending on how authorities respond to it.
So the psychology cuts in multiple directions.
Group identity can encourage solidarity.
Group identity can encourage confrontation.
And the reactions of opposing groups can change what happens next.
That's why Rogan's tribal-warfare comparison is such a provocative theory.
Humans clearly possess powerful capacities for forming groups, coordinating behavior and identifying allies and opponents.
But a political march isn't automatically a battlefield.
And feeling united with thousands of strangers isn't automatically the same thing as wanting to hurt somebody.
New: Joe Rogan tells athletic coach Ross Edgley that he’d be SHOCKED if LeBron James isn’t using Peptides or Hormone Therapies to maintain his elite athleticism in the NBA at age 41:
ROGAN: “He has to be on something. There are 0 studies that show any negative effects to taking BPC-157.”
CONTEXT: LeBron James isn't merely playing basketball at an age when most NBA superstars have retired.
In February 2026, he became the OLDEST PLAYER IN NBA HISTORY to record a triple-double.
His numbers that night:
28 POINTS.
12 ASSISTS.
10 REBOUNDS.
At 41 YEARS OLD.
And he's famously invested enormous resources into maintaining his body.
A February 2026 Los Angeles Times report described LeBron spending more than $1.5 MILLION annually on recovery and maintenance, including hyperbaric chambers, cryotherapy and compression equipment.
That doesn't make him immune to aging.
But it does help explain why his approach to recovery is so different from the average professional athlete's.
Now here's where Rogan's speculation becomes especially controversial.
He specifically brings up two experimental recovery peptides:
BPC-157.
TB-500.
Both have attracted attention for potential tissue-repair and healing effects.
And BOTH are explicitly listed as prohibited performance-enhancing substances in the NBA's collective bargaining agreement.
So are testosterone and human growth hormone.
This isn't simply a question of whether these substances are available outside professional sports.
The NBA has specific rules against them.
But there's another fascinating complication.
Rogan suggests that no research has demonstrated negative effects from BPC-157.
That sounds reassuring.
Until you examine how little HUMAN research actually exists.
A systematic review published on October 8, 2026 identified just THREE qualifying human studies involving a combined total of 30 participants.
30 PEOPLE.
The studies reported no treatment-related adverse events, but researchers classified the overall evidence as VERY LOW CERTAINTY.
They concluded that BPC-157 should not be used clinically outside properly regulated research trials.
In other words:
ABSENCE OF DOCUMENTED HARM IS NOT PROOF OF SAFETY.
There simply haven't been enough high-quality human studies to establish its long-term safety or effectiveness.
The FDA has also raised concerns involving immune reactions, impurities and insufficient human safety data.
And the timing of this debate couldn't be more interesting.
IMPORTANT NOTES: Just days ago, on October 15, 2026, Reuters reported that the FDA was considering a policy change that could make it easier for pharmacies to compound certain experimental peptides, including BPC-157.
That doesn't mean the FDA has approved BPC-157 as safe or effective.
And it wouldn't override the NBA's prohibition.
But it highlights a much larger emerging debate:
If experimental recovery drugs become more accessible to the general public, where should professional sports draw the line between MEDICAL RECOVERY and PERFORMANCE ENHANCEMENT?
Because modern professional athletes have access to extraordinary resources for extending their careers.
Advanced rehabilitation.
Personalized training.
Sleep optimization.
Specialized nutrition.
Experimental recovery research.
But not every intervention is legal in competition, and not every promising treatment has been proven safe.
And one distinction is absolutely essential:
Rogan provides NO evidence that LeBron has used any prohibited substance.
Exceptional longevity is not proof of doping.
But LeBron's extraordinary career has become a fascinating case study in the limits of human athletic aging.
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Candace Owens reacts to the firing of White House Press Secretary Katie Zacharia.
New: Candace Owens is visibly sad that Trump's 5-day White House Press Secretary Katie Zacharia got fired and says we shouldn’t care that she wasn’t actually an attorney because she felt like one and that’s good enough:
“This is so minuscule. Who cares if she’s not actually an attorney or a doctor. She seems like a nice person. We still have Pete Hegseth in there who lies about bombing schools filled with Iranian children.”
CONTEXT: Katie Zacharia lasted just FIVE DAYS as President Trump's White House press secretary before being removed on October 16.
Her first and only White House press briefing lasted approximately 14 MINUTES, during which she answered just three questions.
Then came the controversy over her legal credentials.
Zacharia earned a law degree from Pepperdine University in 2011.
But during an interview with Fox News host Sean Hannity, she acknowledged that she FAILED the California bar exam and NEVER retook it.
That was significant because Zacharia had publicly described herself as a lawyer, and Trump himself had introduced her as an “attorney” when announcing her appointment.
Zacharia defended her background, saying she had international legal experience and had consulted people who told her she could use the title “lawyer” because she held a law degree.
But Axios reported that Trump was caught off guard by the revelation that she wasn't a licensed attorney.
Here's where the underlying controversy gets more interesting.
Being a licensed attorney is NOT a requirement to serve as White House press secretary.
Zacharia's failure to pass the bar did not legally disqualify her from holding the position.
The issue was whether her public descriptions of her legal credentials gave an inaccurate impression of her qualifications.
Meanwhile, the Iranian school bombing Owens references is the subject of a far more consequential dispute.
IMPORTANT NOTES: A United Nations-mandated investigation concluded that the United States failed to take adequate precautions to verify the school was a military target.
The White House rejected the investigation's findings.
That does not independently establish Owens's accusation that Hegseth knowingly lied.
But it exposes the comparison at the center of her commentary:
A White House spokesperson was gone after five days amid questions about professional credentials, while the administration continued facing unresolved questions over a deadly military operation.
Joe Rogan is stunned when Mariana van Zeller exposes that DEA whistleblowers claim that agents let 350,000 fentanyl pills into American streets so they could build bigger cases:
VAN ZELLER: “I know you guys are trying to build bigger cases, but people are dying.”
CONTEXT: The DEA didn't just warn Americans about fentanyl.
It launched a nationwide public safety campaign called:
“ONE PILL CAN KILL.”
The agency warned that counterfeit prescription pills could contain a potentially lethal dose of fentanyl.
But while that campaign was running, some DEA investigators in New Mexico were monitoring large fentanyl shipments without immediately seizing them.
And this isn't based solely on anonymous allegations.
In June 2026, The Associated Press published an investigation based on hundreds of government records and interviews with current and former DEA agents.
Among the documents was a 66-PAGE DEA REPORT describing a June 2023 drug transaction in Albuquerque.
Agents monitored traffickers delivering an estimated 74,000 fentanyl pills.
Federal prosecutors later confirmed that number in a court filing.
The shipment was NOT seized at the time.
But here's the much bigger revelation.
The Justice Department previously had special rules addressing precisely this danger.
Its 2017 “Fentanyl Protocols” emphasized stopping fentanyl distribution as soon as practicable, putting public safety ahead of preserving an investigation.
Then, in 2024, those rules were REWRITTEN.
The revised policy explicitly allowed investigators greater discretion to balance the danger of permitting fentanyl trafficking against the potential benefit of continuing an investigation.
Think about the distinction.
The old approach emphasized preventing deadly drugs from reaching people.
The revised approach allowed officials to weigh that risk against the possibility of building a larger case.
And in August 2026, another DEA whistleblower alleged investigators learned about a shipment of approximately 350,000 FENTANYL PILLS during a wiretap but failed to intercept it.
350,000.
While the agency was warning the country:
“ONE PILL CAN KILL.”
The DEA disputes the suggestion that its agents knowingly endangered communities.
Federal prosecutors argued that monitoring trafficking networks could help identify higher-level criminals rather than merely arresting individual couriers.
And there was a major result.
A lengthy investigation ultimately culminated in a May 2025 operation that seized MORE THAN 3 MILLION fentanyl pills.
That's the strongest argument for the strategy:
Allow investigators to follow the network long enough to dismantle something much larger.
But here's the question critics are asking:
How many dangerous pills can an investigation justify leaving unseized BEFORE the eventual takedown?
And how do investigators measure the human cost of pills they don't recover?
That's not merely a hypothetical accountability concern anymore.
IMPORTANT NOTES: New Mexico's attorney general opened an investigation into the DEA's conduct.
In August 2026, the state SUED the Justice Department seeking investigative records.
The Justice Department's inspector general also launched a broader review examining how federal investigators handle known or suspected fentanyl shipments.
A previous Justice Department investigation had not substantiated the initial whistleblower allegations of misconduct, so wrongdoing has not been established.
But the underlying dispute remains extraordinary.
Law enforcement sometimes allows contraband to move under surveillance to identify higher-level criminals.
The technique can work.
It can also create enormous risks when the contraband is a drug capable of causing fatal overdoses.
And fentanyl makes that calculation especially unforgiving.
Because once an unseized shipment moves beyond investigators' control, there's no guarantee it will ever be recovered.
The whistleblowers say that's exactly what they feared.
Joe Rogan is completely speechless when investigative journalist Mariana van Zeller reveals that META internally projected $16 BILLION in revenue from scams and banned ads so they charged suspected scammers more money to advertise instead of banning them:
ROGAN: “This means they’re in on it then. They're making money.”
CONTEXT: The numbers come from Meta's OWN internal documents obtained by Reuters, not simply accusations from an angry former employee.
According to the November 2025 investigation, Meta internally estimated that approximately 10% of its total 2024 revenue which is roughly $16 BILLION, could come from advertisements promoting scams and prohibited goods.
Another internal estimate suggested Facebook and Instagram users were being shown approximately 15 BILLION higher-risk scam advertisements EVERY DAY.
Those were estimates based on Meta's classifications, not 15 billion independently verified scams.
But the most disturbing revelation wasn't the amount of money.
It was what Meta reportedly did when its own systems suspected an advertiser was fraudulent.
According to Reuters, Meta's automated enforcement system generally required at least 95% confidence that an advertiser was committing fraud before banning the account.
What happened when the system suspected fraud but didn't reach that threshold?
In certain cases, Meta charged the advertiser MORE MONEY to compete for advertising space.
The company called these higher costs “penalty bids.”
Meta's explanation was that making advertising more expensive would discourage suspicious advertisers from purchasing ads.
But think about the financial contradiction.
If the suspected scammer gives up because advertising becomes too expensive, the system potentially prevents fraudulent ads.
If the suspected scammer can still afford the increased price, Meta can continue earning revenue from that advertiser.
And here's an even stranger possibility:
Scammers running the most profitable operations may be the ones best positioned to absorb the higher advertising costs.
That is an economic concern about the policy's incentives, not proof that Meta deliberately designed it to reward successful fraudsters.
But the internal documents reportedly went further.
Some large advertisers designated as “High Value Accounts” could accumulate MORE THAN 500 enforcement strikes without being shut down, according to Reuters.
And employees were reportedly producing internal summaries identifying the week's “Scammiest Scammer.”
Reuters checked five accounts highlighted in one such report.
TWO were still active more than six months later.
Then there's the part that makes the entire system particularly troubling for ordinary users.
According to the documents, someone who CLICKED on a scam advertisement could become MORE likely to see additional scam advertisements.
Why?
Because Meta's recommendation systems attempt to identify what users are interested in and deliver more relevant advertising.
So a vulnerable person engaging with a suspicious investment opportunity might inadvertently signal to the system that similar advertisements are worth showing them.
That's not necessarily a conscious decision to target victims.
It's a potential consequence of optimizing advertising around engagement without sufficiently eliminating fraudulent advertisers.
And the real-world losses are enormous.
IMPORTANT NOTES: The Federal Trade Commission reports that consumers lost approximately $2.1 BILLION in 2025 to scams that began on social media.
Those losses cover social media broadly, not Meta alone.
New development:
On October 1, 2026, the FTC opened a rulemaking inquiry asking whether digital platforms should face greater legal responsibility for advertising systems that facilitate government and business impersonation scams.
The agency explicitly raised the problem of platforms collecting advertising revenue while consumers bear the financial consequences of fraud.
🚨 NEW: Joe Rogan was in shock when historical storyteller Cody Tucker revealed that Mother Teresa was actually a horrible person who kept dying patients in horrible conditions while massive donations flowed to the Vatican:
TUCKER: “She's a scumbag. Mother Teresa never did anything good.”
CONTEXT: In 1994, a physician named Robin Fox visited Mother Teresa's Home for the Dying in Calcutta.
Fox wasn't some anonymous critic.
He was the editor of The Lancet, one of the world's most prestigious medical journals.
And what he described was deeply troubling.
Medical care was inconsistent.
Some decisions were made by nuns and volunteers without formal medical training.
Basic diagnostic investigations were rarely available.
And the facility did not have strong painkillers in its medication supply.
Fox described a patient with a high fever who initially received paracetamol and an antibiotic before a visiting doctor suspected malaria and changed the treatment.
His central objection was that patients who might have treatable conditions weren't being reliably distinguished from people who were actually dying.
Think about that.
Someone could arrive believing they were receiving medical care when they might have needed a proper diagnosis, referral or treatment.
And this wasn't the only criticism.
In 2013, three Canadian academics published a critical review of Mother Teresa's life and work in the journal Studies in Religion.
They questioned her approach to caring for the sick, her political relationships and the management of the enormous donations her organization received.
One of their central concerns was whether a religious belief in the spiritual value of suffering had been allowed to influence the standard of care provided to vulnerable patients.
Mother Teresa believed suffering could have profound spiritual meaning.
But there's a difference between helping someone find meaning in unavoidable suffering...
AND FAILING TO RELIEVE SUFFERING THAT MEDICINE COULD PREVENT.
There is also an important complication.
During the 1990s, India had extraordinarily restrictive regulations governing access to morphine.
Human Rights Watch later documented that India's medical morphine consumption collapsed by approximately 97% between 1985 and 1997.
Even major hospitals struggled to obtain adequate pain medication.
So the absence of strong painkillers at Mother Teresa's facilities does not, by itself, prove she deliberately withheld them because she wanted patients to suffer.
And Fox acknowledged something critics often leave out:
The home he visited provided cleanliness, wound care and genuine kindness to desperately poor people.
The Missionaries of Charity also cared for people whom hospitals had turned away.
Mother Teresa saw her mission primarily as offering dignity, love and spiritual comfort to the abandoned, rather than operating conventional hospitals.
Critics have questioned the Missionaries of Charity's financial transparency for decades.
But Tucker's more specific allegation that Mother Teresa funneled donated money to the Vatican rather than caring for patients has not been established by the evidence reviewed here.
That distinction matters.
IMPORTANT NOTES: Mother Teresa received the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979.
The Catholic Church canonized her as a saint in 2016.
To millions of people, she remains one of the greatest symbols of compassion in modern history.
But the historical record also contains serious criticisms that deserve examination rather than automatic dismissal.
The most disturbing question isn't whether Mother Teresa personally believed suffering had spiritual value.
It's whether that belief, combined with the way her facilities operated, ever resulted in people enduring pain or illness that could have been treated.
Because there is a fundamental difference between helping someone die with dignity...
And allowing someone to suffer when they might not have needed to.
Joe Rogan gets into a serious debate with 2 time Oscar winner Michael Douglas about whether or not Americans should be allowed to own guns:
DOUGLAS: “I can't find any reason for somebody to own an automatic military-style weapon.”
ROGAN: “The worst outcome would be falling to protect your family because you didn’t own a gun.”
DOUGLAS: “I’d rather get stabbed than shot.”
ROGAN: “Really? You die either way.”
CONTEXT: Fully automatic weapons and ordinary semiautomatic firearms are NOT the same thing.
A fully automatic gun can fire multiple rounds with one continuous trigger activation.
A semiautomatic firearm generally fires one round per trigger pull.
And under federal law, civilian possession of newly manufactured machine guns has generally been prohibited since 1986, with limited exceptions for previously registered weapons.
So when Douglas questions why civilians need automatic military-style weapons, he's challenging a category that's already subject to extraordinary legal restrictions.
But Rogan's argument is about something different:
Owning an ordinary firearm for personal protection.
And this is where the numbers become interesting.
A 2024 peer-reviewed study using the federal National Crime Victimization Survey estimated approximately 61,000–65,000 defensive firearm incidents annually across the periods studied between 1987 and 2021.
Those are real reported incidents involving people using guns to defend themselves.
Other private surveys have produced dramatically higher estimates, partly because they ask different questions about threats and defensive behavior.
So armed self-defense is not simply a hypothetical concept.
But there's another side to the equation.
IMPORTANT NOTES: In 2022, researchers published a massive California study following approximately 17.6 MILLION adults.
They found that people who began living with lawful handgun owners had more than DOUBLE the rate of homicide compared with people living in homes without handgun owners.
Even more striking:
Among homicides occurring at home, those living with handgun owners experienced approximately SEVEN TIMES the rate of being fatally shot by a spouse or intimate partner.
These are observational associations, not proof that every gun-owning household faces those odds or that ownership alone caused the deaths.
But they illustrate exactly the danger Douglas is worried about.
And then there's one of the most heartbreaking details of Rogan's own life.
His friend Phil Hartman, the legendary Saturday Night Live comedian, was murdered in May 1998.
Not by a home intruder.
Not by a stranger breaking through the door.
He was shot to death while sleeping by his wife, Brynn, who later killed herself.
Rogan brings up Hartman's murder during the conversation.
Which makes the philosophical disagreement extraordinary.
Douglas even recalls an incident involving his young son picking up a gun that had been left accessible in the house.
Rogan immediately acknowledges the importance of keeping firearms secured.
And the CDC agrees: locked storage can help prevent unauthorized access, particularly by children.
But there's an unavoidable practical tension:
A gun stored securely needs to remain inaccessible to unauthorized people.
A gun intended for emergency defense also needs to be accessible quickly enough to use.
Those two objectives require careful planning, and neither resolves every possible danger.
That's what makes this conversation more than another celebrity argument about the Second Amendment.
Rogan is weighing the consequences of being defenseless against a violent attacker.
Douglas is weighing the consequences of introducing a potentially lethal weapon into an ordinary household.
The difficult question is which risks a household is actually taking on and which dangers people are most prepared to prevent.
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Nick Fuentes just ripped Ilhan Omar into oblivion and says Trump must follow through on his promises or this entire thing could backfire.
Nick Fuentes says he wants Ilhan Omar DEPORTED following the federal search of her home but warns that President Trump Is making a dangerous mistake If he doesn't finish the job:
“Obviously, we want to deport Ilhan Omar and SNEAKO. There's also a long list of political enemies that Trump should persecute using the DOJ, using federal law enforcement. I'm all in favor of that.”
CONTEXT: Federal investigators searched Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar's Washington, D.C., home on October 12 as part of an ongoing criminal investigation.
The investigation reportedly centers partly on immigration paperwork submitted when Omar was a child, including questions concerning her late father's immigration and naturalization history.
According to the Associated Press, investigators have also seized Omar's phone and issued more than a dozen grand jury subpoenas, including some to her relatives.
Omar became a U.S. citizen in 2000 and denies wrongdoing.
The search occurred just 22 DAYS before the November midterm elections.
That timing matters because the Justice Department has historically avoided conspicuous investigative actions involving candidates close to elections.
And federal guidelines explicitly prohibit prosecutors from making investigative decisions based on someone's political beliefs or timing actions to influence an election.
His proposed solution isn't to stop pursuing political enemies.
“If you do these things, you got to finish them. You got to finish the job.”
“You got to make an example out of them. You have to absolutely strike fear into the enemy.”
And he concludes that he hopes Omar is deported, but doubts the investigation will produce that result.
Here's the unresolved legal reality:
A search warrant is not a criminal conviction.
And revoking American citizenship requires a legally established basis, not simply accusations or political demands.
IMPORTANT NOTES: The Justice Department says the search was judicially authorized.
Omar calls it political intimidation.
The investigation's full evidentiary basis has not been made public.
But Fuentes's argument raises a separate issue that goes beyond Omar herself.
He isn't merely arguing that suspected immigration fraud should be investigated.
He's explicitly endorsing federal persecution of political enemies while warning that the same machinery could eventually be turned against his own side.
The fundamental question is what happens to equal enforcement of the law when political movements begin treating control of federal investigators and prosecutors as a weapon to use against their opponents.
New: Joe Rogan is in a state of amazement when The Big Bang Theory creator Chuck Lorre reveals he fell into the Scientology cult for 10 years and exposes how they would charge people $50,000 to achieve a higher spiritual state:
LORRE: “It’s all marketing. They’re always selling you on having the institutionally held secrets. You stick around because everyone wants to know the secrets of life.”
ROGAN: “The added benefit they have is that they have all these successful celebrities.”
CONTEXT: Chuck Lorre really did spend about a decade involved with Scientology.
In a Los Angeles Times interview published today alongside his new memoir, Lorre called it “one of my darker secrets” and said he had been embarrassed by that decade of his life.
He says he entered Scientology when he was a broke young musician looking for direction, continued taking courses after moving to Los Angeles and at one point even signed the Sea Organization’s infamous billion-year commitment.
He lasted two days in the Sea Org.
But Lorre’s broader point about secrets is not something the Church of Scientology itself denies.
Scientology’s official website says that a small portion of its most advanced scriptures is deliberately kept confidential.
The church says members must become sufficiently prepared “spiritually and ethically” before receiving them, and says premature exposure could interfere with spiritual development.
Scientology even has a formal progression system for this.
It is called the Bridge to Total Freedom.
Members move through increasingly advanced levels, eventually reaching what Scientology calls Operating Thetan, or OT.
The church says these levels must be taken in an established sequence and that putting somebody onto the OT levels before they are ready would be “fruitless.”
So when Lorre says:
“Oh, I want to know the secret. If I stick around, I’ll find out the secret.”
he is describing a real structural feature of the religion:
THE MOST ADVANCED INFORMATION IS AT THE END OF A PROGRESSION.
And getting farther along that progression can require serious investments of both time and money.
IMPORTANT NOTES: Religious-studies scholar Donald Westbrook, who conducted extensive fieldwork among Scientologists, describes advancement through the Bridge as something that usually costs money and always costs time. He also confirms that the OT materials are confidential.
Historical reporting shows just how expensive that process could become.
A major Los Angeles Times investigation found that auditing was sold in 12½-hour blocks that at the time ranged from roughly $3,000 to $11,000 depending on where it was purchased.
Former Scientologists have separately described spending six figures over the course of years on auditing, courses and donations.
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Alex Jones did not hold back when speaking about his feeling towards Ilhan Omar 😂
New: Alex Jones giving Ilhan Omar an all time ripping is by far the greatest thing you’ll watch this week 😂
“She needs to be deported. Oh please send her back to Somalia. She comes from a family that specializes in cutting black men’s testicles off. This lady sees blacks as subhuman. She couldn’t go to prison soon enough. This woman is a monster scumbag, piece of trash, and I hope she burns in hell.”
CONTEXT: There's a real, dark chapter of Somali history behind part of Jones's rant.
During the late 1980s, dictator Siad Barre's forces carried out mass killings, bombardments and persecution against the Isaaq population in northern Somalia.
But here's the critical distinction:
The atrocities are documented.
Jones's allegations against Omar and her family are not established by that history.
Omar's late father, Nur Omar Mohamed, reportedly served as a colonel in Somalia's military.
However, independent reporting has not established that he personally participated in the documented atrocities.
Jones goes considerably further, accusing Omar of holding racist beliefs and demanding that she be imprisoned and expelled from the United States.
He also claims the Qur'an forbids marriage to Black men.
But the Qur'an contains no such racial prohibition.
Chapter 49, verse 13 describes humanity as different peoples and tribes and identifies righteousness, not race, as the measure of honor.
And there's another major issue with the deportation demand:
IMPORTANT NOTES: Ilhan Omar has been a naturalized American citizen since 2000.
Naturalized citizenship cannot simply be disregarded because a politician or commentator wants someone expelled. Revoking it requires a legal basis and proceedings.
In a separate development, federal investigators searched Omar's Washington home on October 12 as part of an ongoing immigration-related investigation.
The Justice Department confirmed the search, while Omar denounced it as political intimidation.
That investigation does not establish Jones's accusations about her family's involvement in atrocities or her alleged racial beliefs.
The unresolved question is whether Jones can produce evidence for the specific accusations he's making rather than pointing to real crimes committed by a regime and treating them as proof against one American politician and her family.
Joe Rogan just went off on the “Trust the Science” crowd with Dan Richards who says the way the vaccine was created and pushed during the pandemic was not based on actual science:
RICHARDS: “They weaponized scientific literacy when it came to the jab. The average time to review a vaccine is 10 years. If you’re cranking it out in a year and a half you haven’t done science.”
ROGAN: “It’s not a coincidence that there was so much money involved.”
CONTEXT: There’s an important correction immediately:
Ten years is not some mandatory scientific waiting period before a vaccine can be considered legitimate.
The FDA explicitly says there is “no predetermined timeline” for vaccine development.
WHO says conventional vaccine development can take more than a decade, but much of that time normally comes from doing development, clinical trials, financing, manufacturing and regulatory work sequentially.
During COVID, many of those processes were deliberately run in parallel.
Operation Warp Speed described the strategy almost perfectly:
Don’t eliminate the boxes.
Check multiple boxes at the same time.
Manufacturing, for example, began before anyone knew whether a vaccine would succeed, meaning governments and manufacturers accepted enormous financial risk to save calendar time.
NIH officials explicitly argued that this accelerated the process without eliminating the usual safety and efficacy requirements.
And the vaccine technology itself was not invented in 2020.
Scientists had been working on mRNA for decades.
Katalin Karikó and Drew Weissman published a critical breakthrough involving modified mRNA in 2005, and pre-pandemic coronavirus research had already produced key knowledge about stabilizing spike proteins before SARS-CoV-2 ever appeared.
NIH says those decades of prior work were what made the 2020 timeline possible.
But here’s the part of Richards’ criticism that is genuinely hard to wave away:
The calendar really was radically compressed.
Pfizer’s large Phase 3 trial began in late July 2020.
The FDA issued its emergency authorization December 11.
At the time of authorization, the principal safety population had a median of roughly two months of follow-up after the vaccination series.
That’s not a conspiracy theory.
It’s right in the FDA review documents.
So there is one thing nobody could possibly have possessed in December 2020:
five-year safety data.
Ten-year safety data.
Or even one-year clinical follow-up.
Time itself made that impossible.
The emergency decision was instead made from the evidence available at that point.
And that evidence was not trivial.
Pfizer’s randomized placebo-controlled trial involved more than 43,000 participants.
The initial analysis found 8 symptomatic COVID cases in the vaccine group versus 162 in the placebo group, producing the famous approximately 95% efficacy estimate against the trial’s primary COVID endpoint.
So saying: “They didn’t do science”
goes too far.
They absolutely performed a large randomized clinical trial.
The sharper criticism is:
They performed science under emergency conditions with dramatically less elapsed follow-up time than would exist after a conventional decade-long development cycle.
Those are two very different claims.
And there’s another distinction that got lost in a lot of public discussion.
That original 95% figure did not mean:
“95% guarantee that you will never become infected or transmit the virus forever.”
IMPORTANT NOTES: The Pfizer trial’s primary endpoint was protection against laboratory-confirmed symptomatic COVID after vaccination.
Long-term durability, changing variants, population-level transmission and rare side effects required additional data after rollout.
That last part is exactly why post-market surveillance exists.
One example: By April 2021, reports began showing a rare myocarditis signal after mRNA vaccination, particularly among adolescent and young adult males.
Joe Rogan and LL Cool J challenge limited mindset scientists who are obsessed with peer review and published studies who really need to be more original:
LL Cool J: “Sometimes the scientists get caught up playing by the rules. They can become trapped in their peer review world. Original thought has no peer review.”
ROGAN: “I think a lot of scientists are pulling their hair out right now listening to this.”
CONTEXT: LL is exaggerating one important thing.
A scientific idea can exist long before anyone reviews it.
A hypothesis can be proposed.
A preprint can be released publicly
before formal peer review.
An experiment can produce real data before a journal ever accepts the paper.
Springer Nature itself defines a preprint as a scientific manuscript made public before formal journal peer review and explicitly allows researchers to circulate them while review is still happening.
So what is peer review actually supposed to do?
Not decide what reality is.
It is supposed to make knowledgeable outsiders attack the work before the rest of the field relies on it:
Are the methods sound?
Does the evidence support the conclusion?
Did the researchers overlook another explanation?
Can somebody identify a fatal mistake?
Even Nature says editors can receive conflicting reviewer opinions and do not simply count votes to determine whether a paper is true.
And this is where LL’s criticism gets more interesting.
Science itself has spent decades worrying that the machinery designed to filter bad ideas can sometimes also punish unusually original ones.
A 2026 Nature Human Behaviour paper argued that modern academic incentives can push researchers toward safer, predictable work because short funding cycles, publication metrics, hierarchical pressures and risk-averse evaluation make “strategic conformity” rational particularly for younger scientists.
Another Nature Human Behaviour study found something almost tailor-made for LL’s argument:
the more novel an idea becomes, the more disagreement people have about its value.
And when evaluators see that disagreement, they perceive the idea as riskier and become less willing to invest in it.
Translation:
The stranger the genuinely original idea is, the harder it can be for a committee to confidently say:
“Yep. Fund that.”
IMPORTANT NOTES: There are spectacular historical examples.
Nature itself has admitted that research connected to multiple future Nobel Prizes was initially rejected by journals.
Paul Lauterbur’s foundational work on MRI was rejected before an appeal got it published.
Nature also points to initial rejections involving the Krebs cycle, Čerenkov radiation, Hideki Yukawa’s meson theory, photosynthesis research and even Stephen Hawking’s work on black-hole radiation.
And then there’s Einstein.
Nature notes that organized peer review was not even introduced at Nature until after 1966.
Einstein’s revolutionary 1905 papers emerged in a publication culture very different from the modern referee system.
Nature later described the editors of Annalen der Physik as allowing authors considerably more latitude than modern journals typically do and singled out Max Planck for recognizing the value of publishing extremely unconventional ideas.
🚨NEW: Joe Rogan just had on a pissed off Independent researcher Dan Richards who says the accepted “28 YEARS” timeline for building the Great Pyramid is completely absurd:
RICHARDS: “Go build a f**ing fire pit with cinder blocks and get back to me. You guys don’t own a f**ing tool belt.”
ROGAN: “There were MILLIONS of stones. We’re definitely missing something.”
CONTEXT: Here’s why the construction timeline sounds so absurd when you turn it into arithmetic.
The Great Pyramid originally stood roughly 481 feet tall.
Its base covers about 13 acres.
And the standard estimate is approximately 2.3 million stone blocks.
Now take Richards’ 28-year figure.
2.3 million blocks ÷ 28 years = roughly:
82,000 blocks per year.
225 blocks per day.
About 9 blocks every hour, 24 hours a day.
Or averaged across the entire construction period:
ONE BLOCK ADDED ROUGHLY EVERY 6½ MINUTES.
For 28 straight years.
And if you use the traditional approximately 20-year estimate, the arithmetic gets even crazier:
roughly one block every 4½ minutes.
But there’s an absolutely crucial caveat.
That does NOT mean Egyptians had one crew placing one finished block every five minutes like an assembly line.
Thousands of people could quarry, shape, transport and place blocks simultaneously.
And archaeology has uncovered evidence for exactly that kind of enormous organized workforce.
Harvard’s Digital Giza project says excavations of the builders’ town and tombs indicate a workforce probably on the order of 20,000–30,000 native Egyptians, including skilled craftsmen and large numbers of manual laborers.
That changes the fire-pit comparison considerably.
Richards is comparing one guy building something in his backyard with an Egyptian state mobilizing tens of thousands of people around one national megaproject.
And there was another huge advantage:
most of the pyramid wasn’t being dragged hundreds of miles.
Archaeologists have identified a massive quarry immediately south of the Great Pyramid that appears to have supplied much of its limestone core.
AERA says its quarry channels preserve evidence of workers extracting pyramid-sized blocks in roughly the one-to-two-ton range.
But some of the most important stone really did travel enormous distances.
The brilliant white limestone used for the outer casing came largely from Tura across the Nile.
Granite used inside Khufu’s complex came from Aswan which was roughly 933 kilometers south of Giza.
And this is where one of the coolest discoveries in all of pyramid archaeology enters the story.
We actually have paperwork from somebody involved.
IMPORTANT NOTES: In 2013, archaeologists uncovered the Wadi el-Jarf papyri.
Among them was the diary of an Egyptian official named Merer.
Merer commanded a crew of roughly 200 men and recorded trips carrying fine limestone from Tura toward Khufu’s pyramid complex.
He literally logged his work in half-day increments.
That diary dates to very late in Khufu’s reign around Year 26 or 27 when the pyramid appears to have been approaching completion.
So Richards’ “28 years” isn’t simply some random number archaeologists invented.
There is contemporary Egyptian evidence showing crews transporting casing stone to Khufu’s pyramid near the end of roughly that span of his reign.
But there’s another important correction:
“28 years” is not a universally established stopwatch measurement for the pyramid’s construction.
Modern estimates vary, often clustering around roughly two decades to the high 20s, partly because we do not possess a document saying:
“Construction began on this exact date and finished on this exact date.”
So archaeologists have evidence for WHEN it was being constructed.
They have evidence for WHO was organizing parts of it.
They know where much of the stone came from.
They have quarry traces.
They have a massive workers’ settlement.
They do NOT have a surviving ancient construction manual explaining every engineering step.
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Shawn Ryan left speechless as he learns that Cartels are deploying Ukraine-trained Drone Squads:
Shawn Ryan is stunned as former Ranger says Ukraine-trained Cartel fighters are now using FPV drones against Colombia’s government:
“I know for a fact that it’s occurring.”
CONTEXT: James Lechner isn’t talking about a hypothetical future threat.
Colombia has already become one of the biggest laboratories for weaponized drone warfare outside Ukraine.
ACLED has recorded roughly 670 weaponized-drone events across Latin America since 2018 and more than 72% occurred just between January 2025 and August 2026.
Colombia is the epicenter.
By August, weaponized-drone incidents had been recorded in 97 Colombian municipalities, while the number of armed groups using them had grown from 5 in 2024 to 19 in 2026.
Most commonly, the targets are soldiers and police.
And the technology is getting closer to what has transformed the battlefield in Ukraine.
Earlier this year, a FARC dissident faction reportedly struck a Colombian Navy patrol boat using an FPV drone flown directly into the vessel before exploding.
Last month, suspected guerrillas used a drone in an attack that killed three Colombian soldiers.
Colombian police have also dismantled a network they say was supplying FARC dissidents with attack drones, explosives and advanced military technology.
Then comes the Ukraine connection.
IMPORTANT NOTES: Colombian media reported this summer that members of FARC dissident and ELN factions were allegedly traveling to Ukraine to acquire training in FPV drones, explosives and other battlefield skills before returning home.
Colombia’s defense minister said authorities would investigate those reports.
Joe Rogan gets the education of a lifetime when Biblical scholar Dan McClellan explains that the Bible NEVER actually says that good people who aren’t Christian will burn in hell forever for rejecting Jesus:
McCLELLAN: “That’s not something that’s ever stated anywhere in the Bible.”
ROGAN: “Where does that come from?”
CONTEXT: This gets surprisingly complicated once you actually look at the language of the Bible.
Because the English word “hell” can make the text look far more uniform than it originally was.
Older English Bibles used “hell” for several different Hebrew and Greek concepts:
Sheol
Hades
Gehenna
Tartarus
Those are not simply four ancient words for exactly the same place.
Sheol in much of the Hebrew Bible is basically the realm of the dead somewhere both righteous and wicked people can go.
Hades often functions similarly in Greek.
Gehenna comes from the Valley of Hinnom outside Jerusalem and develops into an image associated with divine judgment.
Tartarus appears only once in the New Testament, in connection with imprisoned rebellious angels.
Even conservative biblical reference works acknowledge that English translations historically collapsed distinct terms under the single word “hell.”
And the Hebrew Bible itself does not begin with the fully developed heaven-versus-eternal-hell system many modern Christians assume runs through the whole book.
Yale biblical scholar Christine Hayes notes that resurrection and postmortem reward and punishment emerge relatively late in biblical literature, particularly in apocalyptic texts such as Daniel.
Then the New Testament gives you several different images.
One sounds like destruction.
Jesus says in Matthew 10:28 that God can “destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.”
Another sounds much closer to eternal punishment.
Matthew 25:46 contrasts “eternal punishment” with “eternal life.”
Mark 9 describes Gehenna using “unquenchable fire” and language about the worm not dying.
Revelation adds the lake of fire.
So McClellan is not saying:
“There is no punishment after death anywhere in the Bible.”
That would be plainly false.
His narrower argument is that Christians later took a collection of different judgment texts and harmonized them into one highly specific theological system:
good Christian → heaven
good non-Christian who rejects Jesus → conscious torture forever
And that exact proposition is much harder to find stated in one biblical passage.
In fact, one of the strangest counterexamples comes from Paul.
Romans 2 says God “will repay everyone according to his works” and describes:
“glory, honor, and peace for everyone who does good” explicitly including Gentiles.
Paul even says Gentiles who do not possess the Jewish law can show its requirements “written in their hearts,” with their conscience either accusing or defending them.
That does NOT mean Paul believed Christianity was irrelevant.
Elsewhere Paul makes Christ absolutely central to salvation.
And other New Testament passages sound much more exclusivist.
IMPORTANT NOTES: John 3:18 says the person who does not believe is “condemned already.”
John’s Gospel also gives us:
“No one comes to the Father except through me.”
So anyone claiming:
“The New Testament obviously teaches that belief doesn’t matter”
would be flattening the evidence in the opposite direction.
That’s really the interesting part.
The Bible is not a systematic theology textbook written by one author at one moment.
It is a library written across centuries by different authors addressing different communities.
New: Joe Rogan might have a new best friend after Grammy Award-winning rapper LL Cool J says he’s 100% convinced that ancient civilizations are buried beneath Antarctica and the Earth’s permafrost:
LL COOL J: “I’m going to tell you where everything is at Joe. The permafrost.”
ROGAN: “You think there’s ancient civilizations there?”
LL COOL J: “100%.”
CONTEXT: The wild part is that LL’s basic premise contains a kernel of truth:
Cold environments are extraordinary time capsules.
Frozen ground can preserve things that would normally decay, disappear or be destroyed.
In northeastern Siberia, genetic evidence shows humans were living in the region more than 40,000 years ago, including an ancient population researchers call the Ancient North Siberians.
In Greenland, scientists recovered enough DNA from roughly 4,000-year-old human hair preserved in permafrost to reconstruct the genome of a man from the island’s earliest known culture.
That would have been almost unimaginable before ancient-DNA technology existed.
And underneath Antarctica, researchers have found something even stranger:
entire ancient landscapes.
Radar mapping beneath the East Antarctic Ice Sheet revealed a vast network of valleys and ridges carved by rivers before the modern ice sheet covered the region.
The preserved landscape is thought to be at least 14 million years old and potentially more than 30 million years old.
It has essentially been sitting beneath the ice like geological deep-freeze.
But there’s a massive chronological problem for the lost-civilization theory:
That Antarctic landscape is millions of years older than Homo sapiens.
There is currently no accepted archaeological evidence of an ancient human civilization beneath Antarctica.
And the famous Antarctic formation Rogan pulls up that looks uncannily like a pyramid?
Geologists have examined that one too.
It’s an unnamed peak in the Ellsworth Mountains, roughly 4,150 feet tall.
Its remarkably symmetrical faces can be explained by ordinary erosion acting on relatively uniform rock.
In other words:
it really does look like a pyramid.
But there’s no evidence humans built it.
That distinction is important because frozen environments have already delivered discoveries that would have sounded outrageous a few decades ago.
Ancient genomes.
Previously unknown human populations.
Entire buried landscapes.
IMPORTANT NOTES: Denisova Cave in Siberia even preserved evidence showing that Denisovans and Neanderthals inhabited the region across enormous stretches of prehistory even with occupation at the cave extending back hundreds of thousands of years.
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Joe Rogan & LL Cool J are fed up with streamers who don’t know how to properly interact with people in real life.
New: Joe Rogan and Grammy Award-winning rapper LL Cool J go off on streamer culture and say that young people raised on the internet are becoming awkward in real life:
LL COOL J: “If you’ve been living on the internet and then you get in real life you’re awkward. You can’t interact with people.”
ROGAN: “A lot of these young streamer kids look at that as an avenue for life where you’re not creating anything really. You’re not becoming better at anything really. There’s no art.”
CONTEXT: LL’s “instant validation” point may be the most interesting part of the entire conversation.
Because online social approval is not metaphorical.
Platforms literally convert it into numbers:
likes
views
followers
shares
comments
And adolescents appear to be unusually sensitive to that feedback.
Researchers analyzing more than 1.6 million Instagram posts from 16,613 users found that adolescents were more sensitive to social feedback than adults.
In a separate experiment, teenagers’ moods were affected more strongly when the number of likes they received suddenly dropped.
Brain-imaging experiments have found something similar.
When young people see posts receiving lots of likes, regions involved in reward processing become more active and participants themselves become more likely to endorse posts that already appear popular.
Real life does not have a visible approval counter.
You can’t refresh a conversation until somebody likes you.
You can’t edit the awkward sentence you just said.
You can’t block every person who disagrees with you.
And most importantly, another human being is not an algorithm optimized to keep you engaged.
There’s also experimental evidence that the amount of life happening through a phone can matter.
In a randomized 2025 study, researchers blocked mobile internet on participants’ smartphones for two weeks while still allowing calls and texts.
The result:
mental health improved,
subjective well-being improved,
and objectively measured sustained attention improved.
91% of participants improved on at least one of those outcomes.
And one of the mechanisms was especially relevant to LL’s argument:
when people lost constant mobile internet access, they spent more time socializing face-to-face, exercising, sleeping and being outside.
That doesn’t prove phones make people socially incompetent.
But it shows something extremely simple:
time online is also time that cannot be spent doing something else.
And social ability is partly a skill.
You get better at reading faces, handling silence, resolving disagreements, telling when a joke didn’t land and recovering from embarrassment by actually doing those things.
The loneliness data are interesting too.
A 2026 meta-analysis covering 81,344 adolescents and young adults found that problematic social-media use had a moderate association with greater loneliness.
Raw time spent on social media had a much smaller relationship.
That distinction matters.
The problem may not simply be “internet = bad.”
It may be the kind of relationship somebody develops with it.
And there’s a useful counterpoint to Rogan and LL’s argument:
social media does not universally destroy social ability.
A separate 2026 meta-analysis involving more than 10,000 adolescents actually found a tiny positive association between social-media use and overall empathy.
The researchers concluded that online interaction can strengthen connection for some young people and harm it for others depending on how the platforms are being used and who is using them.
Joe Rogan is deeply disturbed when David Grusch exposes that he uncovered government officers were using CHILD TRAFFICKING to generate secret revenue:
ROGAN: “So the government was involved in child trafficking for money?”
GRUSCH: “That’s true. Yeah. It’s f*cked up.”
CONTEXT: This is one of the most serious allegations Grusch has made publicly.
And there is an important distinction:
Grusch is alleging misconduct by particular government officers.
He is not presenting public evidence that “the U.S. government” institutionally operated a child-trafficking program.
Then Grusch says he provided the details to members of Congress in a classified setting.
This claim is significant because Grusch really did have the background and access necessary to brief Congress on classified matters.
Before becoming publicly known as a UAP whistleblower, he spent 14 years as an intelligence officer, served in the Air Force, worked at the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency at the GS-15 level, and represented the National Reconnaissance Office on the UAP Task Force.
In his 2023 congressional testimony, he said he had used formal whistleblower channels to provide information to the Intelligence Community Inspector General.
But there is a crucial limit:
His 2023 public congressional testimony did not establish this child-trafficking allegation.
And in the new Rogan interview, Grusch does not publicly identify the agency, officers, victims, financial records or criminal cases that would allow outsiders to independently verify what he is saying.
So right now this remains an extraordinary allegation from Grusch, not an established finding.
Still, the financial mechanism he is describing is not inherently nonsensical.
Human exploitation generates staggering illegal profits.
The International Labour Organization estimates forced labor in the private economy generates about $236 BILLION in illegal profits every year which is nearly $10,000 per victim annually on average.
That figure covers forced labor broadly, not specifically child trafficking, and it does not validate Grusch’s story.
But it explains why exploitation can function as a revenue-generating criminal enterprise rather than merely an isolated crime.
And trafficking networks frequently need another ingredient:
corruption.
A major 2025 UN Office on Drugs and Crime study found documented cases in which public officials did far more than simply accept bribes.
Officials have allegedly provided traffickers safe passage, warned them about investigations, obstructed prosecutions and in some documented cases around the world, participated directly in trafficking operations themselves.
UNODC says corruption can facilitate trafficking at virtually every stage, from recruitment and transportation through exploitation and protection from law enforcement.
Again, that does NOT corroborate Grusch’s allegation about U.S. officials.
It establishes something narrower:
“government officer involved in trafficking” is a phenomenon that has occurred in documented cases internationally.
What remains completely unverified publicly is Grusch’s much bigger claim:
that officers connected to a U.S. government agency were allegedly using trafficking and other crimes as an organized mechanism for producing money associated with secret activities.
Grusch himself compares the alleged financial logic to Iran-Contra, the idea that covert objectives can create incentives to find money outside normal transparent appropriations channels.
But that analogy should not be mistaken for evidence that his trafficking allegation happened.
And there is another reason to demand documentation rather than simply trust credentials.
IMPORTANT NOTE: AARO’s investigation of Grusch-adjacent UAP allegations says it found no empirical evidence supporting claims that the U.S. government or private companies had secretly been reverse-engineering extraterrestrial technology.
Joe Rogan just asked former United States Air Force intelligence officer David Grusch the million dollar question about UFO crashes:
ROGAN: “If these UFOs are so advanced then why do they keep crashing”
GRUSCH: “They might be shooting each other down. We have records of these nonhuman beings fighting with each other.”
CONTEXT: At first glance, the crash-retrieval story has an obvious problem.
A civilization advanced enough to build craft that allegedly outperform our best aircraft should probably also be advanced enough to avoid repeatedly smashing them into Earth.
Advanced technology does not automatically mean invulnerable technology.
The most sophisticated military aircraft humans have ever built can still be destroyed by hostile action.
There is a giant difference between something being logically possible and there being evidence that it happened.
And this claim goes considerably further than what Grusch told Congress under oath in 2023.
During that hearing, Grusch testified that “biologics” had allegedly accompanied some recovered craft and said they were assessed as “nonhuman” by people with direct knowledge whom he interviewed.
But he did not publicly testify that competing nonhuman groups were fighting wars or shooting each other down.
That makes the new “NHI versus NHI” story a significant escalation:
not merely nonhuman craft,
not merely alleged crash retrievals,
but multiple nonhuman actors supposedly interacting violently with one another.
And publicly available government evidence still does not establish any of that.
AARO’s historical review says no U.S. investigation it examined had confirmed a UAP as off-world technology and that it found no empirical evidence supporting claims of secret extraterrestrial reverse-engineering programs.
Even in 2026, the government is continuing to publish military UAP footage that remains unresolved.
But AARO explicitly warns that “unresolved” simply means it cannot currently determine what the object was often because the available data are insufficient.
IMPORTANT NOTES: AARO released footage in 2026 that it assessed was likely recorded during the 2023 Lake Huron incident, with the uploader-defined title describing an F-16 shooting down a UAP.
In other words: an unidentified object can absolutely end up falling out of the sky because someone shot it.
That particular incident is not evidence of aliens fighting aliens because it involved the U.S. military, but it demonstrates why “crashed” and “malfunctioned” are not automatically the same thing.
And Grusch’s specific claim would theoretically leave a much richer evidence trail than an ordinary sighting.
If one advanced craft actually destroyed another, investigators could potentially look for:
unusual damage patterns,
multiple debris fields,
different materials or technologies at the same site,
sensor tracks showing two objects interacting before one went down,
or repeated incidents displaying the same behavior.
None of that evidence has been publicly produced in a form that independently establishes NHI warfare.
So the craziest part of Grusch’s explanation isn’t simply:
“Aliens crash.”
It’s that he is proposing an entirely different picture of the phenomenon.
Not one mysterious civilization occasionally visiting Earth but potentially multiple nonhuman groups, with different interests, interacting with each other, and sometimes violently.

