$ICP peeps be talking like as if they already have 200 million users.
Ain't nobody in Pakistan is moving from whatsapp to your "icp chat app".
The amount of Hopium these guys have.
Obviously is.
Not looking good for $ICP and @dominic_w.
After a week of the ICP patent drama, here is what I see. DFINITY started two lines the same week in 2021: a sealed patent application, and a public CC BY paper with the same method. For three years the public line was the only one anyone could see. NEAR built on it and cited it. Then DFINITY switched to the sealed line and asked for money. The product they built on the same patent holds about 240 BTC today.
The dates, all public and linkable.
Sep 30, 2021: DFINITY files a patent application on re-randomized presignatures. Applications are sealed until published, nobody outside the company can read them.
Oct 5, 2021: five days later, the same two people, Jens Groth and Victor Shoup, DFINITY's cryptographers and the named inventors on the patent, put the same method on eprint under CC BY. Free for anyone to use, attribution only.
Nov 13, 2023: a NEAR engineer opens a public ticket. He describes a known attack on ECDSA with derived keys and presignatures, and proposes the defense from Groth and Shoup's paper, citing it by name: "one technique proposed in [GroSho22] is to re-randomize presignatures". Merged in December. This is how cryptography is supposed to work: you do not invent your own, you take a published, peer-reviewed construction and say where it came from. The code running today still carries the comment "inspired by [GS21]" with a link to the paper, and the Trail of Bits audit describes it the same way.
Nov 28, 2024: the application becomes public for the first time. Three years after filing, a year after NEAR cited the paper.
Jul 28, 2026: patent granted.
Sep 25, 2026: NEAR makes online presign the default, a path where the presignature is computed after the request and there is nothing stored to re-randomize. The PR description is about protocol safety, no patents mentioned.
Oct 2026: DFINITY's founder calls it theft and asks for license fees back to the first day of use.
Bottom line: two paths opened the same week. NEAR took the public one for three years and said so at every step. DFINITY waited until the sealed one was granted, then came for the readers of the public one.
Is $ICP community the flat earthers of crypto ?
75%Yes
25%No
60 votes • Final results$ICP community, please don't create another conspiracy that @hosseeb is an industry plant and is trying to suppress $ICP due to its alien tek. Please No !!!
Bro, this patent was only granted a few months ago. It says so right here.
A patent cannot be infringed until it is granted by the patent office. Before it's actually granted, it's just a filing. You understand this.
By your own accounting, you got the patent at the end of July. They changed their algorithm in September. You're basically saying there was roughly a month during which they infringed your patent, using an algorithm that was originally published in a CC-BY academic paper, which they cited in their implementation? And you are raising a public stink about this?
Come on.
@grok am I getting the facts right here?
Mic drop from Haseeb ! Now who's going to believe $ICP community. Has $ICP lost all the trust and reputation in the crypto space? Will anyone willingly partner with them. Remember $ICP doesn't even have native stablecoins. You need some sort of relationship for that to happen.
Bro, this patent was only granted a few months ago. It says so right here.
A patent cannot be infringed until it is granted by the patent office. Before it's actually granted, it's just a filing. You understand this.
By your own accounting, you got the patent at the end of July. They changed their algorithm in September. You're basically saying there was roughly a month during which they infringed your patent, using an algorithm that was originally published in a CC-BY academic paper, which they cited in their implementation? And you are raising a public stink about this?
Come on.
@grok am I getting the facts right here?
$ICP Community, @dominic_w is a salty little prick who thinks he can sue his way to success.
This is just a publicity stunt by @dominic_w to stir up some noise to let everyone know $ICP is still alive.
I bet you this will be forgotten in a few days just like the below lawsuit
$ICP is done bro. The whales lost trust in @dominic_w and is dumping.
It's going straight to ZERO.
The battle begins.
My prediction, @dominic_w is digging his own grave. Crypto community will isolate $icp even more for these nonsense his spewing right now of legal action and what not. And within next year $ICP goes out of top 100.
Comment your opinions below.
This guy @Zforever97 was an active bull of $ICP till recently. Just look at his posts now. Lesson here is $ICP eventually breaks everyone. Even the most bullish one's.
