I just remembered the one time a girl asked for tips on how to loose weight and I said start hitting the gym and she took offense. Mind you shes still….. oya na
Outing with babe : 100k upwards, alot of “as a man”and “as you should”, barely any humor, carrying the conversation.
Outing with the boys : 20-40k vibes, actually funny jokes and memories, again vibessss