Devon Chambers retweeted
Please @UKHouseofLords members read this thread by @Joanna__Hardy
And refer also to this
Devon Chambers retweeted
Please read the above about jury trials in the Lords with a cup of tea and a biccie: @LordsJHACom @theresa_may @DXW_KC @premnsikka @GreenJennyJones @BaronessEB @shamichakrabar1 @bricksilk @BaronessDeech @KeeleyMP @liz_sugg @sharrond62 @LordWalney @danielmgmoylan @Lord_Sugar
Devon Chambers retweeted
So. There you go. It’s a failure of a Bill. It won’t work on its own terms, it won’t work on any reasonable sense of justice, it will simply move the queue for victims, and the underlying stats are laughable.
Please. Do enjoy your debate today. ❤️
Devon Chambers retweeted
Don’t get me started on some fraud trials randomly losing juries. What’s that even about? Juries aren’t stupid.
They understand dishonesty when they see it.
Devon Chambers retweeted
Oh, and ask the government if they will ensure those subject to these new powers and new provisions will definitely qualify for Legal Aid so a lawyer can assist them and be remunerated at a rate commensurate with the seriousness of the offence. Honestly. Ask them that twice.
Devon Chambers retweeted
I honestly think in the most simple of cases it would be quicker to hear the case again than wade through the transcript of the entire thing, the arguments, the law, the exhibits, and draft a response.
Devon Chambers retweeted
And will these applications for appeal be concisely drafted by experienced lawyers or will they be wheelbarrows full of handwritten dossiers and letters to MPs and AI slop because not everyone in the Mags will qualify for Legal Aid?
Devon Chambers retweeted
When is a Circuit Judge going to find the time to watch CCTV, or ABEs, or consider legal argument from the summary jurisdiction? When are they going to write their reasons for allowing or refusing leave to appeal?
Devon Chambers retweeted
They say the proceedings in the Mags will be recorded. Honestly, I read court transcripts all the time and they are seldom short. When is a Circuit Judge (tasked, LET US NOT FORGET, with conquering the backlog) going to peruse the proceedings in a 6 witness harassment trial?
Devon Chambers retweeted
And Crown Court Judges can’t speak publicly on this issue - and I don’t seek to speak for them - but if I were sitting as a Judge tasked with determining ‘leave to appeal’ applications from the Magistrates’ Court I would be very worried:
Devon Chambers retweeted
Hold on to your socks - they want to restrict something (important) that only amounts to 4% of receipts, but appears to be rather successful (if 60% fail HOW MANY SUCCEED?) because they think - in light of their own reforms - more people might appeal?
My god.
Devon Chambers retweeted
Because this is all quite bonkers now, isn’t it? Let’s see what the Government say about the stats:
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Sixth, if you do somehow think that death by careless driving or sexual assault with sentences less than 2 years should be tried in a summary fashion in a growing queue (ahem), then how do you feel about the automatic right of appeal being removed?
Devon Chambers retweeted
Fifth, just don’t get me started on the diversity of the Magistracy. They can run all the expensive (!) recruitment campaigns they like - but no one is fixing this:
Devon Chambers retweeted
It would be like the Health Secretary saying ‘Look! No queue for surgery!’
But then the camera pans to the GP queue and those waiting are gnawing off their own arms and extracting their appendix with a spoon.
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What will happen is the Crown Court backlog will fall and will be held up as a success story. But, beneath it, will be a log-jammed Magistrates’ Court, with a traffic jam of human misery.
That’s not what success looks like.
Devon Chambers retweeted
Fourth, do you really think this is going to speed things up? The Mags backlog is huge and growing. The Crown Court backlog is showing signs of stabilising AND a whole host of measures have arrived recently that will begin to bite.
They’re moving one queue to another.
Devon Chambers retweeted
They won’t do it. Honestly, even if they start doing it, they’ll soon stop. The ‘serious’ (I use the term re sentence only) either way offences of 12-24 months will soon find their way to a Judge alone for trial.
Don’t let them introduce a Bench Division in a different building.
Devon Chambers retweeted
Which is exactly, EXACTLY, what the government had to abandon in the Commons.
Honestly. Very few Lay Magistrates can volunteer for 2-3 days at a time. And, those who can are likely to be retired or economically comfortable. Part heard trials go off for weeks or months.
Devon Chambers retweeted
Third, do you really think they’ll be giving this new cohort of serious either way *trials* to Lay Magistrates? By design or necessity they will - of course - end up before District Judges sitting alone who can sit for multiple days.
Which is a BENCH DIVISION via the back door.









