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What a feeling.
@CarsonHocevar | @Chilis
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Red Robin is a case study in how to kill a restaurant chain from the inside out.
In 2015, the stock hit $92.90 per share. Revenue peaked in 2017 at $1.4 billion across 573 locations. Families loved the place. Bottomless fries. Birthday parties. “Gourmet” burgers when that word still meant something in casual dining. The brand had real equity.
Then management panicked about rising minimum wages and made the single worst decision in the company’s history: they fired all the bussers.
January 2018. CEO Steve Carley cut bussers across every location, eliminated expeditors, and replaced kitchen managers with generic “back-of-house” roles. The logic was pure spreadsheet thinking. Labor costs were rising, so remove labor. The savings looked great in quarterly earnings. The second and third order effects were catastrophic.
Tables stopped getting cleared. Wait times ballooned. Walkaways increased 85% year over year. 75% of the dine-in traffic loss came during peak hours, the exact window when the restaurant makes money. Ticket times out of the kitchen jumped a full minute on average. Customers who waited 20 minutes for a table and another 20 for a burger stopped coming back. Red Robin’s own CEO at the time, Denny Marie Post, admitted the damage was self-inflicted.
And here’s the compounding problem. While Red Robin was gutting its own service model, it simultaneously launched a “Tavern Double” value menu at $6.99 to drive traffic. Orders of the cheap burgers jumped from 9% to 15% of all orders, which cratered the average check. So Red Robin was now serving worse food, slower, in a dirtier restaurant, at a lower price point. That combination is how you enter a death spiral.
Meanwhile, 16% of locations were in malls. Mall traffic was already declining. Those locations saw 5.5% sales drops versus 3% at standalone stores, dragging the whole system down. Management acknowledged the problem quarter after quarter and did nothing about it for years.
Five CEOs in 10 years. Think about that. The one leader who provided stability, Michael Snyder, was with the chain from 1979 to 2005. After that, it was a revolving door. Every new CEO launched a new turnaround plan. Every plan was abandoned by the next CEO. The North Star plan. The First Choice plan. New menu rollouts. Loyalty program reboots. None of it addressed the core issue: they’d trained an entire generation of customers to think of Red Robin as the place where the service is terrible.
The contrast with Chili’s makes the failure even clearer. Kevin Hochman took over Chili’s in 2022 and did the opposite of what Red Robin did. He simplified the menu, invested in operations, launched a $10.99 “3 for Me” deal that went viral on TikTok, and let the food speak for itself. Chili’s just posted 31% same-store sales growth. Red Robin’s comparable revenue was down 1.2% for all of 2024.
Both chains were in roughly the same position three years ago. One chain invested in the customer experience. The other spent a decade cutting it. Red Robin’s $65M market cap and Chili’s $3.3B market cap tell you which approach works.
The stock went from $92 to $3.61. That’s what happens when you optimize for the quarterly earnings call instead of the customer walking through the door.
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Chili's two-year stacked same-store sales hit 40% last quarter and appear to be accelerating. That's five straight quarters of 35%+ quarterly performance. It's ridiculous.
Chili's did this with a one-two punch of in-store service improvements and social media marketing. A bit of luck also helped.
The company first focused on getting the stores right, fixing little things, investing in service, etc. They then hit on customers' demand for value on items they want, tapping into frustration about high fast-food menu prices.
They got a bit lucky with the "cheese pull" trend on social media. But, as @kdhochman notes, Chili's restaurants were ready for the onslaught.
Now the company is just really popular with the kids. Go into any Chili's and you'll see Gen Zer after Gen Zer. This is a damn casual-dining chain for crying out loud. Kids aren't supposed to be there. But they've discovered the wonders of the bar-and-grill chain.
Anyway, Chili's now does $1 million more per store than its longtime rival Applebee's and $1.7 million more than TGI Fridays. Just an insane story. $EAT
Great time in Utah celebrating promotions and Harrison’s 25 year anniversary as a Chilihead🌶️@Hikeabike902 @anarchy_bus @dougcomings
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Chili’s turnaround leads to sales growth, as brand overtakes Applebee’s. Technomic’s Top 500 places Chili’s third among full-service brands behind Texas Roadhouse and Olive Garden ow.ly/4viP106a9OC
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Dolly Parton Donates $1 Million Towards Hurricane Helene Relief: 'These Are My People' people.com/dolly-parton-dona…
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Here's why Americans are going back to Chili's cnbc.com/2024/09/14/heres-wh…
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When your guest loves CHILI’S they make their own hats!!! 🧢 #chilislove
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From Utah to Branson and back to Utah, been 5 years so great to reunite with them! #everyguestcounts #chilislove @hasquet @Hikeabike902
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Went to @Chilis Cortaro tonight with my family and it was SO good! Food 🍔, drinks 🍹 and hospitality 😃 were perfection! Also, I ran into the most loyal and best regulars! I met them almost 20 years ago when I was a brand new Manager at this same Chili’s 🤯! #ChilisLove
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St.George maybe hot but their guests are the coolest! From long life highschool friends to Linda and Tom living their best life! We love these VIPs that visit is all the time! #everyguestcounts #mountainregion @hasquet @Hikeabike902 @train3rgirl
Congratulations on 20 years at @AZAvondaleFire Jennifer! You rock!!
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Chili’s Sizzles: Howard Penney’s ‘Best Idea Long’ Brinker Soars $EAT 🌶️
This morning on The Call @ Hedgeye, our Consumables Analyst @HowardWPenney and Hedgeye CEO @KeithMcCullough discussed Chili's recent viral success on TikTok, driven by its effective marketing strategy.
FYI--Penney added Brinker $EAT to his "Best Idea Long" list on August 17, 2023, when it was trading at $34. The stock has since doubled.
As Penney explains, Chili's has shown that even legacy brands can thrive on TikTok by focusing on consistency, leveraging the platform’s best practices, and partnering with the right influencers.
“I still love this stock,” Penney explained. “I still think there's more room to run for Chili's just because they've been revamping the marketing strategy. Obviously for a 50-year-old chain like this to become a TikTok viral sensation is pretty extraordinary. And George Felix, who is the CMO, deserves a lot of credit for all this.”
“I think there’s still more room to run for Chili’s,” he added.
McCullough couldn’t contain his amusement at the impressive numbers Chili’s is posting.
“I’m laughing because you and I have covered this together, restaurants, for over 20 years,” McCullough replied. “For those of you that don't know, I was a restaurant analyst on the buy side—Howard was at Morgan Stanley. And this company has been around pretty much the whole time. And I'm giggling because, I don't think I've ever heard a traffic number that high at Chili's. And that's including when it was a growth concept.”
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