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Salt Lake City, Utah
Joined January 2022
10 movies that will teach you more about sales than any course you can buy (1 hour training): 1. True Grit 2. The Gentlemen 3. 12 Angry Men 4. The Godfather 5. Lincoln 6. Dog Day Afternoon 7. Heat 8. Inside Man 9. Glengarry Glen Ross 10. Djano Unchained
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How to find what killed your sales call in ~10 minutes: 1. Start at the END and watch the close first. 2. Jump to the first 5 minutes and listen for tonality and frame: does the prospect believe the seller, and who holds the higher status in the prospect's head? 3. Run the question check. Is the seller asking the right questions, in the right order, at the right time? 4. Run the precision check. Is the seller letting the prospect get away with vague, hand-wavy answers? That's poor discovery discipline, and it almost always kills the deal. 5. Watch the presentation LAST. The pitch goes last because it's almost NEVER the problem. 90%+ of the time, the problem is in discovery. Bookmark this for your next sales call review.
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Happy buyers are the most dangerous buyers on a sales call. ​ 4 things to watch out for: ​ 1. Your guard drops at the WRONG moment. ​ Green flags early in a sales call are as dangerous as red flags. A prospect who's laughing and agreeing in the first few minutes makes you WANT to ease off. So you go soft right when discovery should be getting harder. ​ 2. You solve before you dig. ​ A happy buyer tends to hand you the problem early. It's tempting to jump straight to the fix. "Solving before digging" shows up in losing calls over and over. So your pitch goes after a problem you've barely scratched. ​ 3. The cheerleading starts. ​ "You're on a great path." It feels like the generous thing to say to a prospect who's doing well, AND it seems to “build rapport” (and salespeople are ADDICTED to rapport). But every time you say it, you tell them they can get where they're going without you. Cheerleading ≠ selling. ​ 4. A ready buyer ends up not buying ​ Some prospects are ready to buy before the call is over. A seller riding the good mood keeps presenting. Then the call ends with homework and no next call booked. A week later that ready buyer is a stall, and it was the seller's doing. Missing the buying signals and buying temperature is depressingly common in the 15,000+ sales calls I’ve listened to.
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At LendingClub, I ran 4 business units handling 1.4M customer interactions a month. By everyone else's standards I was doing great. I was spiritually dead inside. Before that, I'd built LendingClub's sales team from 5 sellers to 150 sellers. I did it twice, in two different geographies, two different labor pools. When COVID hit, the company went into downsizing and panic, and shut down the entire Sales team. I agreed to become Director for all of Customer Success instead. The job was huge. But it took me away from my first love: the combination of coaching + sales. That's where the dead-inside feeling came from. It also taught me the lesson I still carry: Leaders still need to pour their all into their team members, to mentor and coach them to brilliance. AI can't and won't replace that. So I went out on my own. Now I help small and medium businesses grow and scale their own sales teams, with a coaching, customer-service-centric approach. That company is Cadence. We've built an always-on sales coach that guides salespeople in the moment, when a deal can still be won, rather than after the fact. That typically means a 50-100% increase in conversion rate, on the same ad spend. It's enabled by AI, but it's not a cookie cutter AI solution. We actually listen to the calls ourselves. The mission is the one that started my career: Coaching salespeople to success, with tireless focus on what they actually need in order to learn, and thrive. So much more to come...
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HUGE gap between AI winners & losers in the next 5 years I see some businesses facing AI + recession and being "scared money" not investing, not trying things.... NGMI OTHER businesses try stuff, fail fast, spend more, and gobble market share.... they will soon own the entire market
it's absolutely amazing that technology capabilities are now evolving on a timescale of weeks while legacy stuff like institutions (banks), labor markets, & social norms take years, if not decades to adapt, if even that. you know this is true when every week there is a new product that you can feel has enormous potential to disrupt meaningful parts of society / culture in a very very short period of time. it's unclear to me that we will ever reach an equilibrium here where things will feel calm until maybe a full singularity is in place.
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At LendingClub, I ran 4 business units handling 1.4M customer interactions a month. By everyone else's standards I was doing great. I was spiritually dead inside. Before that, I'd built LendingClub's sales team from 5 sellers to 150 sellers. I did it twice, in two different geographies, two different labor pools. When COVID hit, the company went into downsizing and panic, and shut down the entire Sales team. I agreed to become Director for all of Customer Success instead. The job was huge. But it took me away from my first love: the combination of coaching + sales. That's where the dead-inside feeling came from. It also taught me the lesson I still carry: Leaders still need to pour their all into their team members, to mentor and coach them to brilliance. AI can't and won't replace that. So I went out on my own. Now I help small and medium businesses grow and scale their own sales teams, with a coaching, customer-service-centric approach. That company is Cadence. We've built an always-on sales coach that guides salespeople in the moment, when a deal can still be won, rather than after the fact. That typically means a 50-100% increase in conversion rate, on the same ad spend. It's enabled by AI, but it's not a cookie cutter AI solution. We actually listen to the calls ourselves. The mission is the one that started my career: Coaching salespeople to success, with tireless focus on what they actually need in order to learn, and thrive. So much more to come...
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Experienced salespeople are the RISKIEST hires you can make. My top 5 hires ever had never held a sales job. (This includes the woman who closed $380k in a single day and the guy who closed over 80% for 14 months straight) Most owners hiring closers want the opposite. They think: "Get someone with 10 years in the game, and they'll hit the ground running." That's actually backwards. If I look at the top 5 salespeople I've ever hired, 3 of them came from about as far outside sales as you can get. One was headhunted out of customer service. Another did multimedia and owned 500 pairs of sneakers. The third had only played semi-pro sports before coming to me. None of the 5 had held a sales job before, and none of them even WANTED one. Selling was never their goal (the customer service hire went on to work undercover as a vice cop after her time in sales). Now flip that around and look at my top 10 WORST salespeople of the last 12 years... every one of them had been in the game for 10, 20, even 30 years. Some had sat in the same role for a full decade. They couldn't: 1. take feedback 2. keep their emotions under control 3. learn to change or grow from their peers who were “less experienced” than them Consequently their results and earnings were wildly inconsistent. That's what a long enough career in sales will do to a lot of people. They get jaded, and the mind locks into place like cement. If they had even a little success, they're convinced they can sell every product under the sun. So when you hire one, you essentially inherit a cup that's already full. Nothing new goes in, plus the bad habits they built over decades, spill over to the rest of your team. And you pay extra for an inflated sense of self-worth, with salary requirements that ballooned to match. TL;DR: The best salespeople are not salespeople. If you’re hiring reps: > I advise you look in the most unlikely places for talent instead. > Hire people with NO sales background > Screen them for EXCELLENT communication skills, and are fun to talk to > Train them to sell exactly the way you want them to sell. It's easier and it's cheaper and you will make loads of money this way.
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After reviewing 15,000+ sales calls, this is the cheat sheet I'd hand any founder or closer to read EVERY prospect in the first 5 minutes and know exactly what to say to close them:
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Experienced salespeople are the RISKIEST hires you can make. My top 5 hires ever had never held a sales job. (This includes the woman who closed $380k in a single day and the guy who closed over 80% for 14 months straight) Most owners hiring closers want the opposite. They think: "Get someone with 10 years in the game, and they'll hit the ground running." That's actually backwards. If I look at the top 5 salespeople I've ever hired, 3 of them came from about as far outside sales as you can get. One was headhunted out of customer service. Another did multimedia and owned 500 pairs of sneakers. The third had only played semi-pro sports before coming to me. None of the 5 had held a sales job before, and none of them even WANTED one. Selling was never their goal (the customer service hire went on to work undercover as a vice cop after her time in sales). Now flip that around and look at my top 10 WORST salespeople of the last 12 years... every one of them had been in the game for 10, 20, even 30 years. Some had sat in the same role for a full decade. They couldn't: 1. take feedback 2. keep their emotions under control 3. learn to change or grow from their peers who were “less experienced” than them Consequently their results and earnings were wildly inconsistent. That's what a long enough career in sales will do to a lot of people. They get jaded, and the mind locks into place like cement. If they had even a little success, they're convinced they can sell every product under the sun. So when you hire one, you essentially inherit a cup that's already full. Nothing new goes in, plus the bad habits they built over decades, spill over to the rest of your team. And you pay extra for an inflated sense of self-worth, with salary requirements that ballooned to match. TL;DR: The best salespeople are not salespeople. If you’re hiring reps: > I advise you look in the most unlikely places for talent instead. > Hire people with NO sales background > Screen them for EXCELLENT communication skills, and are fun to talk to > Train them to sell exactly the way you want them to sell. It's easier and it's cheaper and you will make loads of money this way.
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After reviewing 15,000+ sales calls, this is the cheat sheet I'd hand any founder or closer to read EVERY prospect in the first 5 minutes and know exactly what to say to close them:
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Losing deals and still don’t know why? Send me your most recent won or lost sales call. I’ll review it and tell you exactly where it died. Apply here: thisiscadence.com/interview PS: One agency we worked with went +400% on conversion rate and closed $96,000 in 1 week (the fix was in discovery)
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Most sales trainers still teach rapport like it's the 1950s. 4 myths that have your closers losing deals: 1. Rapport = the prospect likes you. Real rapport is trust. The prospect trusts your demonstrated expertise and believes you're smart and capable enough to get them results. People buy from people they RESPECT. 2. You build it with small talk. Your rep can talk football teams, hometowns, kids, or weather with anyone. None of it proves you can fix the problem they booked the call about. So it earns you zero trust. Even worse, it labels you as a “Mad Men” or “Wolf of Wall St” salesperson. 3. You have to warm them up before you talk business. There's ZERO need to "build rapport" at the start of a sales call. In 2026, trust gets built by getting to work on their business problems quickly and efficiently. That's where your expertise shows. 4. The more rapport, the better. Chasing rapport is an addiction, and it costs you money. Get as buddy-buddy as you like about brisket recipes and your Shenzhen vacation — AFTER they’ve paid you. Bookmark this.
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Most sales trainers still teach rapport like it's the 1950s. 4 myths that have your closers losing deals: 1. Rapport = the prospect likes you. Real rapport is trust. The prospect trusts your demonstrated expertise and believes you're smart and capable enough to get them results. People buy from people they RESPECT. 2. You build it with small talk. Your rep can talk football teams, hometowns, kids, or weather with anyone. None of it proves you can fix the problem they booked the call about. So it earns you zero trust. Even worse, it labels you as a “Mad Men” or “Wolf of Wall St” salesperson. 3. You have to warm them up before you talk business. There's ZERO need to "build rapport" at the start of a sales call. In 2026, trust gets built by getting to work on their business problems quickly and efficiently. That's where your expertise shows. 4. The more rapport, the better. Chasing rapport is an addiction, and it costs you money. Get as buddy-buddy as you like about brisket recipes and your Shenzhen vacation — AFTER they’ve paid you. Bookmark this.
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I was the Manager of the entire LendingClub department that beat its annual sales goal two years in a row. We hit $1B in sales in 2018, two months ahead of schedule, and grew 100%+ year over year for two straight years. In that same stretch, we boosted Customer Satisfaction by 900 basis points and Net Promoter Score by 1,240 basis points in 2018. In 2019, we hit record employee engagement. The Chief People Officer named me "Top Manager" that year. "Unyielding standards" is a great line. And on a sales team, that line HAS to turn into a trackable number. Without one, you get a team celebrating "good conversations" and "promising deals." When a sales team celebrates those instead of numbers, it means they're not performing. My advice: 1. Take your most basic, simple and easy hygiene metric. 2. That's something like call availability or updating HubSpot stages. Nobody needs talent to update a HubSpot stage. 3. Set the expected standard at 99% or 100% 4. Then work on that one metric until the team has it mastered at that level. Once they've mastered it, watch the entire culture and the results of the team change, "magically."
Hot take: You must fire fools to make room for geniuses because the ladder will not tolerate the former. Extraordinary outcomes only come from unyielding standards.
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I've audited 15,000+ sales calls in 12 years. Most objections are caused in the first 5 minutes of the call. On the losing calls I review, the trouble starts in 4 places đź§µ
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Telling a new closer to "sell like the founder" only works if the founder built a process they can follow. The idea behind it is right. But MOST founders are terrible at building a sales process. So the new closer gets told to “model the founder” and gets nothing that shows how the founder actually closed. The founder thinks if they hire 1 A-player closer and hand them the same leads, they'll close them at the same clip. It almost never plays out like that. A process means a closer knows which questions to ask and in what order. Without one, they're essentially “guessing” on every call. So your whole sales process is the one closer you just hired. And when one A-player IS your whole sales team, here is what will happen: They'll perform well at first. You'll have your best month ever, and they'll make good money. Next month, if there's any wobble in your lead flow or lead quality, they start having doubts. With no process to go back to, all they have is instinct. And unless they've taken over 1,000 sales calls, those instincts are likely pushing them in exactly the wrong direction. Then, they start trying different things. “Switching it up.” Trying that one thing that worked, one time, at another company, in a different industry. And results tank quickly. If you don't add another A-player soon after, nobody shares the load with them. So they start looking around at other offers. By month 4-6, if they haven't left yet, they're already halfway out the door. And you’re left saying “There are no good closers to hire anywhere” ...but it was your fault, not theirs.
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I've audited 15,000+ sales calls in 12 years. Most objections are caused in the first 5 minutes of the call. On the losing calls I review, the trouble starts in 4 places đź§µ
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So better objection handling isn't usually the right answer. All 4 of those happen before the pitch. It’s all in the discovery.
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