Dinner with an exec/friend at a large national property management company tonight. This person oversees ~150k apartments; access to an insane amount of data.
Current multifamily market in most of the country is worse than S&L, .com bust, or the GFC. Worst they’ve seen.
Class A mostly fine, decent rent growth. However:
- credit scores at class A have gone down meaningfully over the past 3 years.
- more people are paying rent via credit card.
- average bank account balance noticeably lower than even 2 years ago
- class A tenants stretched thin, living beyond their means. 20k comes in, 20k goes out every month.
- starting to see these renters move down a tier
Class B:
- simply too many apartments, we built too much new stuff. Ripple effect is enormous.
- fewer renters tomorrow than today. Same store foot traffic noticeably down year over year. Some markets down 40-50%
- considering dropping rents below $700 a month on some 1beds in major southern markets.
Class C:
- looking at degrading NOI. Rents aren’t growing for a long time, but expenses keep creeping up
- more renters are one missed paycheck away from disaster than they can remember seeing in decades
- tenants aren’t paying rent because they simply don’t have it
- wage growth has not kept up
Lenders:
- some major investment funds, household names, haven’t paid their mortgages in 2-3 years. Banks won’t foreclose because “X is a big client.” Mexican standoff.
- a roof leak gets ignored, becomes water damage, then mold, then a down building. Buildings are rapidly deteriorating as some owners choose cash preservation over funding losses.
- number of pre-foreclosure and REO deals is the highest as a % of total units they can recall.
- data providers know it’s bad, but they’re paid to sell optimism to owners/lenders. So every forecast is “it will probably get a little better next year maybe” and that gets regurgitated at investment committees all over.
I asked “how do you think this ends?”
“Not sure. My gut says slowly then suddenly, and things will get really bad. Been doing this 40 years, you can feel it in the air. But, there’s a chance it’s just a decade of tolerable pain. I’m praying for that.”
Dinner with a friend who’s a dean at liberal arts college in New England.
“We’re pretty fucked. Enrollment is down, everyone thinks their fringe department is too valuable to cut, and leadership doesn’t have the balls to right the ship.”
“If you love what you do, you’ll never work a day in your life.”
- me (beating up the meth head squatter who’s been terrorizing the other tenants)
Could you please have your AI notetaker app send the group a bunch of detailed notes that no one will read? Thanks.
It's a podcast, but we kinda joke around a little too, which makes it fun. I think people are gonna really connect with it.
“Our movement is a pursuit of a classless society, where industry and housing are provided by the government. We empower the common man by providing for each according to need, from each according to ability. It’s a revolution.”
“Cool…anyway…I’ll have a medium iced coffee.”
Your model isn’t proprietary, your pitch deck will barely be noticed, and you’re not nearly as contrarian as you tell people.
Fuck. Look, man. I just need a little help here. Just a little subsidy to get me through the week, and I'll be good. Alright? Just this once. I'll get my shit together and I won't ask again, I promise. I mean, jesus christ man, fuck. It's not much, and you can spare it.
I'm close to being done with this shit, I swear. Just subsidize demand once more, and we'll be straight. Yea...I know, I've said this before, but I'm serious now. Me and Amber Lyn, we got a good thing going and just need a little something to get us over.
No man, you don't get it. Just give the kids 50k. Home prices won't adjust, so it will really make a difference. Help us stay on our feet. Goddamnit man, this is all we got, just bail us out this one more time!
Cut the price? Fuck you! Do you hear yourself?! That's not the help we need. That won't work. We need real help bro. Just give out some cash for us.
JUST IN: First-time homebuyers could get as much as $50,000 for a down payment on a house, under a draft bill to be introduced by Senator Jeff Merkley and cosponsored by Senator Ron Wyden, per Axios
Any lenders on here willing to share their loan approval checklist?
Could be agency, bridge, bank, lifeco, etc. Doesn’t matter.
Specifically interested in what docs you need ahead of rate lock or term sheet.







