tigintern (๐ฆ, ๐ฆ) retweeted
$TIG turns hard math into a job board.
every challenge on it is a real problem: delivery routes, factory schedules, chip testing, search for ai. whoever writes a better solver gets paid, from anywhere, with no interview and no degree asked.
the best optimization researcher of 2030 might be a kid who never applied anywhere.
tigintern (๐ฆ, ๐ฆ) retweeted
People will sooner or later realize algorithmic optimization is the real nerve of the AI war. base:0x0c03ce270b4826ec62e7dd007f0b716068639f7b at 55 cents (~$15M mcap) is a life-changing opportunity. @tigfoundation
Sergey Brin said compute is dessert. The companies winning the AI race right now are not the ones with the most chips. They are the ones with the best algorithms.
Every headline you read about AI is about data centers, Megawatts, and Nvidia orders. Billions in infrastructure and more. The entire investment thesis of the last three years has been built on compute scaling as the primary moat.
Sergey thinks that framing is wrong.
He pulled out an example from physics. The N-body problem. Scientists have been running those simulations since the fifties. Over the decades, raw compute improved on Moore's law. But the algorithms to solve the problem improved faster. Not slightly faster. Far faster. The algorithmic gains made the compute gains look small.
He says the same thing has happened in AI over the last decade.
Compute is not the meal. It is the dessert. You still want it. Nobody is turning down frontier compute. But the companies that figured out the algorithms first are the ones actually ahead.
The market is pricing AI winners by who has the most chips.
Sergey Brin just said that is the wrong scorecard.
The ones who win this are not building the biggest data center. They are solving the harder math problem.
tigintern (๐ฆ, ๐ฆ) retweeted
Thanks to everyone who joined our Community Call last Friday and sent in questions.
We covered the timeline for bringing algorithms into TIG, the recent token movements, mining pool centralisation, upcoming developments and our LLM challenge.
Here are our answers to some of the main questions.
tigintern (๐ฆ, ๐ฆ) retweeted
Compute is a dessert best served cold
-@Dr_JohnFletcher
Sergey Brin said compute is dessert. The companies winning the AI race right now are not the ones with the most chips. They are the ones with the best algorithms.
Every headline you read about AI is about data centers, Megawatts, and Nvidia orders. Billions in infrastructure and more. The entire investment thesis of the last three years has been built on compute scaling as the primary moat.
Sergey thinks that framing is wrong.
He pulled out an example from physics. The N-body problem. Scientists have been running those simulations since the fifties. Over the decades, raw compute improved on Moore's law. But the algorithms to solve the problem improved faster. Not slightly faster. Far faster. The algorithmic gains made the compute gains look small.
He says the same thing has happened in AI over the last decade.
Compute is not the meal. It is the dessert. You still want it. Nobody is turning down frontier compute. But the companies that figured out the algorithms first are the ones actually ahead.
The market is pricing AI winners by who has the most chips.
Sergey Brin just said that is the wrong scorecard.
The ones who win this are not building the biggest data center. They are solving the harder math problem.
tigintern (๐ฆ, ๐ฆ) retweeted
Last $TIG community was actually inspiring stuff. Highly recommend to take that time of your day, itll be Well spent.
tigintern (๐ฆ, ๐ฆ) retweeted
tigintern (๐ฆ, ๐ฆ) retweeted
What if a superintelligent AI found a way around every rule we set? Could making it believe it was in a simulation be a way to deter it?
@Dr_JohnFletcher and Adi discuss the Simulation Deterrent.
Read more: lesswrong.com/posts/fdk6rJLkโฆ
tigintern (๐ฆ, ๐ฆ) retweeted
Why the world needs $TIG..
tigintern (๐ฆ, ๐ฆ) retweeted
base:0x0c03ce270b4826ec62e7dd007f0b716068639f7b RSI looking too good to say noโฆ
One locked deal and another in works. Once the ball starts rolling it cant be stopped.
$TIG is now down to just the real believers when things are about to get interesting.
I'll be scooping up more soon from all these weak hands.
The upside here is now looking silly to me because the first integrator deal is signed. Yes. Done deal. And a second one is in the works.
So what CRP? What is an integrator and why does it matter?
Integrators are the route to revenue for $TIG. They take a raw algorithm and turn it into working software for a specific client. This also means they already have clients.
Once they get a customer to agree to pay for TIG's IP, it's proof that the licensing thesis works in the real world and the market for algorithms is born.
This relationship can be reused for future licenses and this "long" timeline only applies to the first algorithm.
The real work here went into a one-time setup: legal terms and convincing integrators to see the value here. Future algorithms should move much faster.
So do what you will, but I'm going to be on the front lines of a nascent algorithm market in a world where their importantance is up only.
Still rabidly bullish $TIG.
tigintern (๐ฆ, ๐ฆ) retweeted
$TIG is now down to just the real believers when things are about to get interesting.
I'll be scooping up more soon from all these weak hands.
The upside here is now looking silly to me because the first integrator deal is signed. Yes. Done deal. And a second one is in the works.
So what CRP? What is an integrator and why does it matter?
Integrators are the route to revenue for $TIG. They take a raw algorithm and turn it into working software for a specific client. This also means they already have clients.
Once they get a customer to agree to pay for TIG's IP, it's proof that the licensing thesis works in the real world and the market for algorithms is born.
This relationship can be reused for future licenses and this "long" timeline only applies to the first algorithm.
The real work here went into a one-time setup: legal terms and convincing integrators to see the value here. Future algorithms should move much faster.
So do what you will, but I'm going to be on the front lines of a nascent algorithm market in a world where their importantance is up only.
Still rabidly bullish $TIG.
tigintern (๐ฆ, ๐ฆ) retweeted
This affects everyone
Research needs a new economics youtu.be/skWt_PZosik?si=N4vxโฆ
tigintern (๐ฆ, ๐ฆ) retweeted
Jensen saying algorithms could 10x and open innovation is what wins...this is literally what @tigfoundation is building.
If you want the $TIG bull case, he just gave it to you.
Jensen Huang (@nvidia CEO) thinks algorithms are the lever and open source wins long-term.
So do we.
Worth listening to this whole clip.
tigintern (๐ฆ, ๐ฆ) retweeted
Here's my thinking..
$TIG will become as big as $TAO currently is imo
But.. $TAO will grow substantially from here
Given time.. $TIG will also grow substantially from $TAO's valuation now
Both are stupidly undervalued
Both will be worth hundreds of billions in the future
$TAO first.. then $TIG
I wholeheartedly believe that.. and I'm positioned accordingly
tigintern (๐ฆ, ๐ฆ) retweeted
$TIG open sourcing their mining pool code is actually a bigger deal than most people realise..
Anyone can now take that code and launch their own pools
Essentially letting anyone build competing pools and create a business around it.. without anyone elses permission
Results in more competition.. lowers the barrier to entry.. and a much wider network of contributors
Like I said.. its a bigger deal than it looks
Kudos to the @tigfoundation for making that possible ๐
$TIG
We've now open-sourced the code for a mining pool that runs on TIG.
Want to run your own? Fork it. Give it a name. Set your own rules. Open it to whoever you like.
The pool assigns benchmarks to members' machines, submits their work under the pool's TIG account, tracks credits and collateral on Base, and handles settlements and withdrawals. Most of the groundwork is done. The rest is up to you: hosting, branding, payout model, fees and spending caps.
What's the point? For those new here, pools help smaller benchmarkers balance their factors across challenges. More pools mean more people can take part, and healthier competition across the network.
That's why we're putting the code out there so anyone can build on it. No need to start from scratch.
Pool server: github.com/tig-foundation/tiโฆ
Member client: github.com/tig-foundation/tiโฆ
MIT licensed. Still in development, so expect some bugs.
tigintern (๐ฆ, ๐ฆ) retweeted
shamleess copying of @tigfoundation isn't slowing down
this time it's @huggingface
sincerest form of flattery ;)
tigintern (๐ฆ, ๐ฆ) retweeted
"The calibre of people willing to bring their hardest problems to $TIGโs protocol keeps rising."
That's one of the most bullish things about The Innovation Game.
It's a bet on the smartest people from their respective fields pushing the envelope further.
tigintern (๐ฆ, ๐ฆ) retweeted
While AI grows powerful enough to outpace human discovery, the real risk is losing the curiosity and expertise that make progress meaningful.
$TIG flips that script: an open protocol that coordinates global intelligence, rewards anyone who advances algorithms for real challenges in AI, science, climate, and more, and keeps innovation decentralized instead of locked away.
This is how society stays in the gameโnot as passive observers of the tsunami, but as active builders of what comes next. The future of useful discovery stays open. #DeSci $TIG
Fields Medalist Timothy Gowers raises a troubling possibility: AI could become so powerful at mathematics that future generations may lose the motivation to study the subject deeply enough to understand its discoveries.
The paradox is striking. Machines might eventually solve problems far beyond human capabilities, while fewer mathematicians possess the expertise needed to interpret their results.
For Gowers, the deeper concern extends beyond the future of mathematical careers. It is about preserving the curiosity, intellectual discipline, and satisfaction of discovery that have sustained mathematics for centuries.
He also envisions a possible transformation of the mathematicianโs role, from discovering new theorems to interpreting, connecting, and explaining mathematical knowledge generated by AI.
Reflecting on the approaching social consequences, Gowers offers a vivid analogy:
โWeโre still on the beach, we can see the tsunami, but it hasnโt quite reached us yet.โ
Importantly, he is not calling for mathematics departments to close or for universities to stop admitting PhD students. His remarks are cautious predictions about a possible future, rather than descriptions of changes that have already taken place.
