Even if she was right about having the discussion, Woman's Hour has resolutely failed to do this. They failed to mention the public consultation on the GRA until the day before the deadline, leaving women uninformed until too late. They have uncritically called men women, whether trans-identified or males with DSDs, including in items about lesbian clubs, women's health and sport. They have either failed to cover 'gender critical' cases at all or they have on odd occasions provided a completely hostile environment for the interview. They have called listeners transphobes on X. They stopped featuring their interviews with 'GC' women on X, even if the subject was nothing to do with 'trans' (your own interviews about VAWG and your latest book being a case in point). Finally a couple of years ago they left X altogether, presumably because that's where most of the pushback was. None of this interview was in good faith - like Woman's Hour itself, it was just more gaslighting.