🏒 Fett🏋️🥋

Agree with most of what you said. The key words are "they might help a little bit". It’s not about peptides. They do work. It’s about overestimating what they can actually do and, in many cases, whether the promises made about them actually live up to expectations. The whole bodybuilders vs biohackers thing is a bit overblown, I think. Sure, bodybuilders say things that can irritate biohackers, and vice versa. But if you look at the bigger picture, there’s a reason why some bodybuilders go hard at them. Bodybuilders mainly stick to bodybuilding, which is the old-school formula for getting jacked, leaner, stronger, better at exercising / lifting and staying healthy. The emphasis is on actual effort, discipline and long-term planning, without relying on shortcuts and quick fixes as the first resort. Good coaches with a bodybuilding background can get people into their best shape without drugs or with minimal drug use. By ‘in shape’, I don’t mean just muscle gain, fat loss and aesthetic changes, but also performance in the gym and general fitness. It has nothing to do with trying to make every lifestyle client look like a bodybuilder. By ‘old way’, I mean putting lifestyle changes first: nutrition, training, daily activity, good sleep and recovery, etc. PEDs and peptides come much later in the hierarchy if at all. Biohackers are biohacking, and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. There’s value in it, as long as they’re genuine and know what they’re talking about. I know and respect many biohackers on X. They’re very knowledgeable and know more about biochemistry than I do. I also talk to some of them in my DMs. But some 'biohackers' and there are like legions of them, with new ones emerging every day... tend to cross the line and step into bodybuding space, with the promise actually get people jacked or in shape... Again, some might feel qualified to do so, but the line is crossed when they start suggesting they can do a better job than actual bodybuilders. Especially when they don’t have much proof of work themselves, either through their own physique or the results of clients they’re supposed to get in shape. Writing about hardcore steroid profiles like Tren, designing a ‘blast’ for their audience and telling people that bodybuilders often don’t know what they’re doing might give some biohackers their little dopamine hit… But bodybuilders are visual creatures. If someone promotes all these drugs using scientific language and speaking from a position of authority, it would be nice to see some great results with the people they offer their help to. I don’t see that very often. As I said, some biohackers are legit, knowledgeable and honest people. But there’s also a bunch of others with ‘biohacker’ in their bio, who are best friends with LLMs, overemphasise drug use and don’t have much proof of work to show for it.