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John Fontain retweeted
The Tawrah is not the canonical Pentateuch. Once you remove that identity, the alleged "internal critique" becomes a historical argument.
John Fontain retweeted
John Fontaine does a great job in this conversation of forcing the objection out of the “internal critique of Islam” and into what it actually is: a historical critique. The Christian himself eventually acknowledges that his argument stretches into a historical one.
Once you establish the Islamic categories properly, the whole discussion changes. The Tawrah is the revelation Allah gave Musa. The Pentateuch is not simply assumed to be that revelation. The Injil is the revelation Allah gave Isa. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are not the Injil. Even the Christian in this conversation acknowledges that distinction regarding the Injil.
From there, if someone wants to argue that the Islamic account is historically wrong, we can have that conversation. We can discuss manuscripts, transmission, textual criticism, the Passover tradition, and the reliability of the biblical texts. That is perfectly legitimate. But now we are discussing history. We are no longer pretending that the Quran somehow contradicts itself.
And this is where I think the dawah becomes much clearer. We can actually teach Islam instead of spending the whole conversation trying to reconstruct Christianity’s scriptures for them.
We establish why we believe the Quran is revelation from Allah. Once that foundation is established, Allah’s speech becomes the criterion by which these earlier traditions are judged.
That is exactly why the Quran is al-Furqan and al-Muhaymin over the previous scriptures.
This is the point of the dawah. Call people to Islam, establish the truth of revelation, and let revelation be the standard.
@MrFontain @RevelationsLost @belle_liuu
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Aʿlām al-Nubuwwah is by the famous Ismaili Abū Ḥātim Aḥmad ibn Ḥamdān al-Rāzī (d. 322 AH). Make sure you correct the reference before you print your book @Deenresponds
John Fontain retweeted
🚨 SHOCKING scenes from Sebta 🔞🇪🇸
A Moroccan 🇲🇦 migrant was thrown to his 💀 from a wall of considerable height by elements of the Guardia Civil.
Witnesses at the scene described "Guardia Civil officers pushing him from the wall"
#Ceuta is turning into a complete massacre.
John Fontain retweeted
This guy @muslimorthodoxy has an ego that is unmatched. He responds to my video politely correcting him by acting like a child. I'm a hater, clout chasing, pathetic, and need to seek help merely because I politely corrected him. Regarding his only substantive comments about Luke instead of Matthew and the Pseudo-Hilary point, I already addressed both of them in the video. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt, but at this point, he's simply a dishonest charlatan. He's trying to walk back his initial claims from the video because he was simply unaware of the sources I presented.
This guy is so delusional that he thinks he "ended" @JayDyer's career with his recent interaction. Whether we like it or not, Jay is going to continue doing what he has been doing without any differences. You sperging out without rebutting Jay's initial argument and failing to adequately respond to his Mary genealogy claim is not ending his career or anyone else's.
I will address this arrogant child more fully soon, in shaa Allah. I thank Allah that I've never had such blind fanatics like him following me. May Allah protect us all.
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John Fontain retweeted
If you want to be taken seriously, you need to display a level of consistency. With respect, you aren’t in a position to claim the moral high ground.
Given your recent dealings, it is difficult to perceive these tweets as anything but digs, cloaked in flowery language.
Was it not reckless of you to appear on a podcast with someone who has literally slandered multiple Muslims, accusing some of being khawārij & linking Du’āt to ISIS?
With all due respect, you can’t behave the way you have and then proceed to make statements like “sectarianism is cancerous”. People won’t buy it.
If you want your calls to unity to be received as sincere invitations, package them with consistency.
John Fontain retweeted
I just received a copy of my book. Alhamdulillah. Did you receive your copy yet? Post a picture of it if you got yours.
John Fontain retweeted
Very interesting times we are living in.
There are so called “Sunni” activists out there who:
1. Attack the people of Tawheed and condemn them.
2. Side with rafida (mushrikeen) and promote unity with them.
Strange new breed of “Sunnis”.
For these people I attach one verse.
John Fontain retweeted
I can't believe I'm doing this. I dreaded this day because I didn't want to hand the islamophobes a victory, because these brothers are the most active in Dawah. But I think it has to be done. There has been too much lying, pretense, speech without knowledge and an undue...
John Fontain retweeted
Just so we're clear, the Injil is the speech of Allah revealed to Jesus son of Mary. It is in no way equivalent to the Greek NT books which were promoted by the Church because they pander to the counter-gospel of Paul.
The Injil may have survived, partially and/or paraphrased in all those places you map and many more besides much much further afield, even as far China where Nestorians, for example, carried Christianity.
Sure, some traditions from Jesus may have made their way into the Christian cannon and Apocrypha. But without corroboration from the Book and the Sunna, we cannot be definitive — we can only speculate and make reasonable case arguments.
Otherwise, we are vying with Allah's Messenger in claiming knowledge of the Unseen that only a Prophet could have received.
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John Fontain retweeted
Brother, where did you hear any "Alternative Gospel theory" being mentioning in the video you're responding to?
All I got was that we don't need the Bible and should instead adhere to the Quran and Sunna, and so on — which is correct.
Also, contrary to what you appear to be saying, as Muslims, we do not definitively attest to the Greek Gospels except in a very limited general sense, as the Prophet ordered us, "Do not affirm nor deny (what the Jews and Christians claim)."
Finally, to suggest that we should use the Greek Gospels in dawa, or give dawa to the idea that they contain the verifiable words of Jesus son of Mary, has no basis in Islam.
Not only did the Prophet and the Sahaba not do this, they didn't care in the slightest to record and preserve for us the Injil, despite some Companions of great renown having been Christians.
And that's because Islam is the perfected religion of all the prophets past, and the Quran abrogates all that went before it of scriptures past.
So it is to the Quran that the believer invites — not no Bible — as it is the Quran that awakens true faith in the hearts of men.
"And when they [humble and sincere Christians] hear what has been revealed to the Messenger [of the Quran], you see their eyes overflowing with tears because of what they have recognized of the truth. They say, "Our Lord, we have believed, so register us among the witnesses." (Q.5:83)
John Fontain retweeted
What a sad indictment of the new Bible-aggrandising dawah trend: no Quran, no Sunna, no articulation of Islamic creed whatsoever.
Instead, we get a nearly two-hour argument over the semantics of Christian texts—texts that hold no truth value for a Muslim.
And no, the Greek Gospels are not "historical accounts of Jesus." They are pseudo-biographical narratives scripted to serve the pagan-pandering church of Saul the Tarsian.
It's only through what Allah revealed to His Messenger Muhammad ﷺ that we know with certainty who the son of Mary was, what he believed and what he preached.
Islam rests upon the Quran. That is the believer's call. Leave it to others to invite to book of the religion of Paul.
وَقَالَ الرَّسُولُ يَا رَبِّ إِنَّ قَوْمِي اتَّخَذُوا هَـٰذَا الْقُرْآنَ مَهْجُورًا
And the Messenger has said, "O my Lord, indeed my people have taken this Quran with neglect." (Q. 25: 30)
@TaymiApologia @dawahxdialogues @SeerahDawah
John Fontain retweeted
This new trend of young Muslims (men and now apparently even women) doing religious content with the purpose of "dunking" on others and scoring points while using thug like language and insulting people in the process has nothing to do with Dawah
This type of content needs to be called out and boycotted unless this behaviour starts to change
While some Non-Muslims can be vile and disrespectful and sometimes a level of firms needs to be displayed the whole point of being a Muslim is to have superior manners
If you start acting like them you're only doing harm to this religion.
John Fontain retweeted
D. @Haqiqatjou previously shared a quote from Ibn AbdelWahhab and told us to learn his principle of (Udhr bil-Jahl), now he called him a Takfiri who had no (Udhr bil-jahl)! This guy is fighting himself!
Dan in Oct2024 vs Dan in Jan2025:
some saying they are "tired of the dunya" Busy yourself in studying islam. It's a never ending task that will intellectually and spiritually stimulate your heart and mind many life times over. As your knowledge grows so will your love for the Deen and the love of worship of Allah
John Fontain & Umar speak about the da'wah in New Zealand over the past few weeks since the events at Christchurch.
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