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This is bigger than Herbert. Itās a QB conversation.
Kurt Warner sees it. Russell Wilson has touched on it. Dan has talked about it.
Three QBs with VERY different NFL careers, all recognizing something similar: Herbert doesnāt look comfortable.
And that matters.
When a QB who has given you years of tape suddenly starts looking uncharacteristic, the evaluation canāt stop at:
āThe QB is playing bad.ā
Of course he is. Herbert threw the INTs. Heās missed throws. He deserves criticism for that.
But evaluating a QB without evaluating what heās being asked to operate is like blaming a race car driver for slower lap times without asking what changed under the hood.
Maybe the driver made mistakes. Hold him accountable for them.
But if the same driver suddenly canāt take corners heās handled for years, youād be foolish not to inspect the car tooā¦.
Scheme dictates what youāre asked to process. Footwork affects timing. Protection affects your internal clock. Route concepts determine where the answers are. And when a QB starts thinking instead of reacting, everything can look a half second slow.
This applies to ANY quarterback.
Good coaching isnāt proving your QB can execute your offenseā¦.
Itās building an offense that allows your QB to play fast and consistently do what he does best.
When experienced NFL quarterbacks watch the tape and repeatedly say āthis doesnāt look like him,ā thatās worth paying attention to.
I know there are a bunch of really smart ppl in the Chargers building, but the tape is leaving me befuddled conceptually! It almost feels like they are trying things bc #Herbert is a freak and they think he can do things others canāt, but it makes little sense!
Yes, I felt Herbert was uncomfortable earlier in year & missed some OPPs being tentative, yesterday, he had a couple bad INTs, but so many concepts left me uncomfortable for him watching the tape!
Jim Harbaugh was coaching Michigan when Jeremiah Smith was the No. 1 recruit in the country.
Fast-forward three years.
The Chargers are 0ā6, and Jeremiah Smith is eligible for the 2027 NFL Draft.
Iām not saying Jim is intentionally losing gamesā¦
But what if heās playing chess while the rest of us are playing checkers? āļøšš
Jim, is this a football season or a three-year recruiting strategy? š
For those who believe a QB should just ācarry his teamā to victoryā¦
Should Brock Purdy have somehow prevented the defender from perfectly punching the ball out of Kittleās hands?
Or does that context suddenly not matter because the QB gets the win or loss?
Purdy deserves accountability for HIS mistakes. But so does everyone else.
Football is a team sport. That shouldnāt be controversial.
Burrow and Chase have 53 TDs as a QB-WR duo. They are only behind Dan Marino and Mark Clayton (65), and tied with Moss/Culpepper and Hadi/Alworth
Having a dynamic receiver can make a huge difference for a QB.
xitter.cf/fantasypros/status/211ā¦
1,039 receiving yards. 9 TDs. From two receivers in just six games.
This is why supporting casts matter.
Having multiple dangerous WRs forces defenses to make difficult coverage decisions, creates opportunities and raises an offenseās ceiling.
Jordan Love deserves credit for getting the ball to his guys. His receivers deserve credit for helping him execute and catching the ball
Context isnāt an excuse. Itās part of evaluating EVERY quarterback fairly.
Matthew Golden and Christian Watson combined this season:
1,039 receiving yards
9 receiving TDs
They rank 1st among all duos in football in both categories entering Week 6, per @SumerSports.
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Where does your teamās offensive line rank across 2023ā2025?
The combined rankings:
1 ā Broncos
2 ā Bills
3 ā Eagles
4 ā Ravens
5 ā Chiefs
T6 ā Buccaneers
T6 ā Packers
8 ā Falcons
T9 ā Lions
T9 ā Rams
T9 ā Vikings
T12 ā 49ers
T12 ā Bears
T12 ā Steelers
15 ā Commanders
16 ā Colts
17 ā Giants
T18 ā Chargers
T18 ā Cowboys
T20 ā Dolphins
T20 ā Jaguars
22 ā Browns
23 ā Cardinals
24 ā Raiders
T25 ā Panthers
T25 ā Patriots
T25 ā Seahawks
28 ā Jets
T29 ā Texans
T29 ā Titans
31 ā Saints
32 ā Bengals
Pocket Context combined ESPNās team pass-block win rate rankings with PFFās overall offensive-line rankings.
I averaged each teamās annual ranks within each source, ranked those three-season averages, then averaged the two placements equally.
T = tied. Both sources and all three seasons receive equal weight.
This blends pass-blocking results with overall OL evaluations. It isnāt a pure pass-protection grade or a measurement of everything a quarterback had around him.
PFFās editorial rankings can reflect ideal lineups; its 2023 Chargers ranking assumed Corey Linsley was available.
2026 is excluded. PFR remains withheld until conflicting pressure totals reconcile.
For context..
Mahomes losing key starters matters. Absolutely.
But OL adversity isnāt unique to him.
I looked at PFFās final offensive line rankings since 2020:
Mahomes: 11, 5, 4, 7, 7, 10
Allen: 10, 17, 23, 6, 5, 6
Burrow: 30, 20, 28, 26, 30
Lamar: 16, 21, 2, 5, 9, 16
Herbert: 32, 10, 17, 16, 21, 30
Seasons finishing outside the top 15:
Mahomes: 0/6 (7.3 avg rank)
Allen: 2/6 (11.2)
Lamar: 3/6 (11.5)
Herbert: 5/6 (21.0)
Burrow*: 5/5 (26.8)
Season-long rankings donāt capture every injury, but they reveal differences in sustained OL performance.
Adversity deserves context. But context isnāt exclusive to one QB.
If it matters for Mahomes, it matters for everyone.
*Burrow: 2020ā2024.
Trading Justin Herbert because the Chargers arenāt winning is like replacing the engine because the tires are flat.
The gamble isnāt just finding another franchise QB. Itās spending years and draft capital trying to replace something you already have, while the original problems remain.
From 2002ā2023, FOX Sports classified 39 of 61 first-round QBs as misses (64%).
Trading Herbert doesnāt solve your roster problems. It just adds QB to the list.
My answer: Somewhere between 2ā4 out of 10, depending on the offense and how much the QB is being asked to do within that scheme.
The QB is the engine of a car. Arguably its most important component. But you can put a Ferrari engine in a car with four flat tires, a failing transmission, and broken brakes. It doesnāt matter how powerful that engine is. Youāre not winning many races.
The same applies to football.
Yes, the QB touches the ball on almost every offensive play. But not all touches are equal. A handoff isnāt the same as reading a defense, changing protections, or making a tight-window throw under pressure.
Weāve seen QBs win games while contributing relatively little beyond protecting the football. Detroit even won a game in 2024 with Goff throwing five interceptions.
Weāve also seen QBs operate like field generals, constantly reading defenses, changing plays, and creating opportunities when things break down.
But even the best engine can only do so much if the rest of the car isnāt functioning properly.
A bad offensive line? Good luck consistently getting the ball out.
Receivers dropping perfectly placed passes? The QB did his job, but the result doesnāt reflect it.
A terrible offensive scheme? Even great execution can only overcome so much.
A defense that canāt stop anyone? Now the QB has to overcome what happens on both sides of the ball.
Special teams? An entire game can come down to a missed kick after the QB put his team in position to win.
The irony is that QB is arguably the hardest position to play in sports, while simultaneously being one of the most dependent on everyone else doing their job.
A QB can carry the most weight while still needing to be carried.
Being the most important player doesnāt mean being responsible for everything.
Thatās why Iām at 2ā4/10 when assigning responsibility for the TEAMāS wins and losses, not measuring his contribution to the offense.
But, I am curious where everyone disagrees.
The QB is widely considered the most important position in football.
But heās still just 1 of 22 offensive and defensive starters on the field. That doesnāt include special teams, coaching, or the front office.
So hereās my question:
On a scale of 1ā10, how much responsibility should a QB reasonably carry for his teamās wins and losses?
Give me your number. Then defend it.
The QB is widely considered the most important position in football.
But heās still just 1 of 22 offensive and defensive starters on the field. That doesnāt include special teams, coaching, or the front office.
So hereās my question:
On a scale of 1ā10, how much responsibility should a QB reasonably carry for his teamās wins and losses?
Give me your number. Then defend it.
What Ben Johnson has done with the Chicago Bears in just ONE season and seven weeks deserves more attention.
2024 | Before Johnson:
5ā12 record (29.4%)
26th in offensive EPA/play (ā0.082)
32nd in total offense (283.5 YPG)
2025 | His FIRST season as an NFL head coach:
11ā6 record (64.7%)
8th in offensive EPA/play (+0.079)
6th in total offense (369.5 YPG)
2026 | Through Week 7:
5ā2 record
Thatās a 16ā8 record and a 66.7% winning percentage since taking over.
Hereās the crazy part:
Chicago went from 32nd to 6th in offensive yards per game in ONE season, the first NFL team to make that jump since the 1971 Jets.
From last in total offense to top six.
In his first ever season as a head coach.
Coaching matters. Development matters. Organizational competence matters.
Context matters.
Pocket presence is an art.
Feeling the rush. Manipulating the pocket. Having the confidence to stay composed and deliver, knowing a hit is coming.
Those subtle movements help the line protect, give receivers time to uncover, and allow an offense to thrive.
Sometimes one small step makes the whole play possible.
Heās just buying time for his receivers to get open downfield.
Mustāve forgotten heās playing basketball š¤·āāļø
To everyone who says elite QBs should win regardless of the talent around themā¦
Keep that same energy during free agency and the draft.
āWe donāt need better players. Our QB is elite.ā
Funny how supporting casts only matter when itās your QB.
It makes you wonder. Harbaugh seems like the type of coach who doesnāt give up on his guys, and thereās nothing wrong with that.
But at what point does loyalty start getting in the way of putting the best players on the field?
We watched Bozeman and Pipkins struggle for extended periods, and now Taylor is back, yet he still isnāt getting the opportunity to start.
Maybe thereās more going on behind the scenes that we donāt know.
But after three straight seasons of protection issues, you have to start questioning these decisions.
At what point does it become more about relationships than results?
Nothing wrong with loyalty, but if itās coming at the expense of winning, what are we doing?
Drafted last. Rated first.
Brock āMR. IRRELEVANTā Purdy
105.6 career passer rating.
Highest in NFL history.
Per PFR and NFL.com
Regular season - Minimum 1,500 attempts
Through Week 6, 2026



















