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imd has more builders and ideas than 99% of the chains
and yeah, taking into account the ones that raised hundreds of millions
all on top of eth mainnet, which most likely will show strength this cycle
yeah ct decides the quality of the chain by amount of meme runners, but google what chain institutions and big players choose for tokenization etc
$imd
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they also bought back 50k++ worth of $NEST on average every week with mindshare increasing in the entire hyperevm eco itself
with elysium launching, more attention and volume is bound is come to hyperevm too
and up to 85% of supply locked every single epoch for a project sitting at 5m only...
still the best beta to HYPE here, aiming to be the liquidity/growth/yield layer for hyperevm and the broader Hyperliquid ecosystem here (just like how aero is here)
with the bullish news for hyperliquid just ystd and KNTQ hitting ATH, i can see $NEST outperforming as well, with the launch of elysium coming as well
Nest is deploying full-range pools, concentrated liquidity pools, and public pool creation for launchpads on Elysium from launch. This gives it a first-mover shot at becoming the primary liquidity hub on the new chain
xiao
wanted to say it’s good to be in coins where holders are smart and know that binance hack is not the reason to sell your onchain bags (true)
but this is even more bullish, completely new type of stablecoin built by $imd swarm
tvl and volume growth while the whole market is bleeding
expect it to launch vertically with elysium launch
nest-2:native
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idk how to explain this feeling but if you have been in crypto long enough, you have probably imagined a binance hack a thousand times
it was always *the* ultimate black swan event. the kind of thing you assumed would send the entire industry to absolute zero and now it is literally happening in front of us somehow it just feels like yea whatever another day in crypto?
ofc it is a massive event and there are very real consequences but there is something so surreal about seeing something you have feared for years actually happen and can almost certainly say that in 1w everyone will have just moved on
idk man it is so weird lol
binance hacks polymarket to distract everyone from the $hype news
doesn't work so they proceed with "the biggest hack in crypto"
anything but bring value to the industry
surprised there is no aster shill yet
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still the best beta to HYPE here, aiming to be the liquidity/growth/yield layer for hyperevm and the broader Hyperliquid ecosystem here (just like how aero is here)
with the bullish news for hyperliquid just ystd and KNTQ hitting ATH, i can see $NEST outperforming as well, with the launch of elysium coming as well
Nest is deploying full-range pools, concentrated liquidity pools, and public pool creation for launchpads on Elysium from launch. This gives it a first-mover shot at becoming the primary liquidity hub on the new chain
xiao
volume is only going to increase once elysium is live
simply put, faster blocks + cheap txes -> more room for arbitrage, mm etc -> more volume for nest pools -> more buybacks for $nest
also bigger rewards for locking nest
88% supply locked, ~20-33% apr depending on strategy
Replying to @NestExchange
@NestExchange Marketshare has done nothing but increase since inception on @HyperliquidX
It is now almost 30% of all DEX activity on HyperEVM
All other DEXes have decreased over time, but nest-2:native
I would not fade the High-Beta to hyperliquid:native
$nest = 💎
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Replying to @NestExchange
@NestExchange Marketshare has done nothing but increase since inception on @HyperliquidX
It is now almost 30% of all DEX activity on HyperEVM
All other DEXes have decreased over time, but nest-2:native
I would not fade the High-Beta to hyperliquid:native
$nest = 💎
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30m ATH TVL. Highest revenue generating protocol for its stakers in the HypeEvm ecosystem. Stats have been up only since its launch last year. Value prop has never been better with Elysium mainnet launching soon, yet this is still nowhere near the previous ATH it made near launch.
Hyperevm also getting an increased of attention due to the new US exchange Hype integration news.
The perfect storm.
By the way, the real mcap is around 4m range or so.
Majority don’t know of this because it’s not able to be traded on FOMO and in general researching is still a big edge in this market.
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there is half of CT absolutely euphoric about druck and elon mentioning tradexyz
the other half is complaining about some onchain random pervert coin not pumping
k shaped world
oh another l2
but for a chain bringing onchain perps to the us with nyse?
yeah i'll take it
$kntq
Strap in and consider this my official update on the kinetiq:native thesis, specifically regarding @Enter_Elysium.
Best way to do this is to refute some arguments I've seen:
1. "L2's are parasitic"
It's very lazy to compare Elysium to other L2s from the past. Robinhood Chain has generated a little over $50m in fees, of which $5m went to Arbitrum, and a whopping...$70k went to $ETH blob fees.
HyperEVM hyperliquid:native fees are burnt, whereas sequencer fees on Elysium go to kinetiq:native buys and builders (more on this later), but HyperEVM fees only account less than 1% of Hyperliquid total revenue. Papertrade is actually much more directly parasitic to hyperliquid:native; HyperEVM fees are peanuts even if Elysium vamped them entirely.
An under appreciated dynamic that a lot of people don't know is that HyperEVM USDC applies to AQAv2 hyperliquid:native revenue too, and USDC on Elysium will as well. Assuming the HyperEVM burns around $25k of hyperliquid:native a day, every additional $1b USDC that Elysium onboards in TVL would burn 4x that same amount due to AQAv2.
For reference, Solana has ~$7.5bn USDC and Base has $5b. Robinhood chain is predominantly USDG, which they monetize on, and ETH obviously gets nothing from. Imagine if Base contributed to $175m (3.5% of $5b) of value accrual to $ETH via their USDC TVL...maybe my $5k/7k $ETH calls would actually hit then 🙃
Beyond this, the entire selling point of Elysium is that it sits adjacent to HyperCore. propAMM's are functionally impossible on HyperEVM now due to the 1s block time (amongst other reasons). Additionally, on the HyperEVM, you can only read Hypercore price, not order book depth.
As a result, Solana does 25-50x the spot trading volume that Hypercore/HyperEVM handle. If Elysium can eat even a moderate chunk of on chain spot volume from Solana, especially in tokenized RWAs, the implications for corresponding hedging flows to Hyperliquid are enormous.
Elysium explicity enables net new flow and TVL to Hyperliquid, both of which are very accretive to hyperliquid:native itself. I would not be surprised if Elysium directly contributes an additional low 9 figure ARR for hyperliquid:native in 2027.
2. "L2's are bad investments and down only tokens"
As stated above, $ARB made about $5m so far from Robinhood Chain. Of that amount, a whopping...zero dollars made it to tokenholders. No buybacks, no burns, nothing.
50% of Elysium sequencer fees are directed at kinetiq:native buybacks. Even if you assume that Elysium only generates half the current sequencer fees of the current ghost town that is the HyperEVM, that'd still more than double their current revenue.
Currently, kinetiq:native buybacks as a % of market cap are about 1.5%, compared to 4-5% for hyperliquid:native. If Elysium generates only half of the sequencer fees of the current HyperEVM ($5m/yr), they'd be retiring token off the market at the same rate that hyperliquid:native does relative to market cap.
If Elysium can do closer to 50-75% of Base annualized sequencer fees ($30m), they'd be doing kinetiq:native buybacks at double the rate of hyperliquid:native as a % of market cap.
This is completely negating a likely increase in kHYPE TVL and other revenue streams (which there are numerous), like from launchpads like @AscendLaunch.
Ascend actually deserves their own section because they've commited to doing 30% of gross revenue as kinetiq:native buy/burns (50% to buys, 60% of that to burn). $PONS has generated $200m revenue in the last 2 months, but is currently only annualizing about $125m revenue, so we'll use a very conservative ~10% of the more conservative number. That'd add another $4m of kinetiq:native buybacks, which brings buyback yield/mcap well into the double digit %, over double hyperliquid:native.
3. "Why would there be activity on Elysium if there wasn't on the HyperEVM?"
Probably because the HyperEVM operates at the speed of smoke signals and has 0 support from Hyperliquid.
You have @Uniswap, @fomo, @Pumpfun etc all announcing integrations and deployments on Elysium day 1 after ignoring the HyperEVM all this time. @0xOmnia and the @Kinetiq_xyz team is putting on a master class in distribution, and you're seeing it play out this week.
Jeff and company are focusing on building the best perps platform in the world, and that's great, but this hands off approach has come at the expense of any support or curation of an on chain ecosystem.
That's left a massive gap that other chains have filled, but Elysium can bring all that activity back into the "house of all finance". Having a team that's fully dedicated to making this a reality will look nothing like the lack of attention the HyperEVM received.
4. "It'll be a flash in the pan memecoin chain and die out just like RHC activity has"
This is more speculative and it's hard to say. Elysium could have an epic and unsustainable PvElysium memecoin season by inheriting some of the wealth effect from both hyperliquid:native and kinetiq:native. Obviously this would absolutely moon kinetiq:native from sequencer fees/Ascend revenue, but that's shortlived.
Lively trenches aren't mutually exclusive with a real and innovative DeFi ecosystem though. As I mentioned before, Elysium will be uniquely able to plug in with, leverage, and read Hyperliquid orderbooks and liquidity. DeFi applications that couldn't be built anywhere else are made possible here.
A performant general purpose blockchain adjacent to HyperCore is the natural home to propAMM and HFT arbitrage against HIP3, which incentivizes deeply liquid spot RWA markets, which enables much higher LTV lending, which enables unique structured products and DeFi primitives to be built.
I do imagine that the trenches are built before more serious innovation comes about, but an important note here is that builders are getting 25% of sequencer fees as well. What builder wouldn't want to deploy on a new ecosystem, adjacent to the most successful app in crypto history, with a built in rev share agreement with the chain itself? Based on my conversations with Ascend and Montra, lots of serious teams want to build, not just memecoin deployers.
TLDR: It's not that complicated guys. kinetiq:native is a $120m mcap token that has a very clear path to buyback % yields multiples higher than hyperliquid:native, with an unprecedented ecosystem flywheel. It's both beta to hyperliquid:native and enhances the hyperliquid:native bull case. It might be the most asymmetric bet in crypto right now, and it's not conditional on some long shot thesis, just that there will be a large on chain ecosystem for the most important app in crypto.
Maybe it's a flop and a sell the news event on launch...or maybe it's all the best parts of Base/Hood sequencer fees combined with the revenue streams of $PUMP, $CAKE, solana:jtojtomepa8beP8AuQc6eXt5FriJwfFMwQx2v2f9mCL, ethereum:0x5a98fcbea516cf06857215779fd812ca3bef1b32 etc and heads towards billions of TVL and 9 figure annual revenue.
If you pattern match too hard to "L2 bad" or "HyperEVM sucks", it's from a place of being too 🏳️🌈🐻-pilled and/or lazy research.
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Strap in and consider this my official update on the kinetiq:native thesis, specifically regarding @Enter_Elysium.
Best way to do this is to refute some arguments I've seen:
1. "L2's are parasitic"
It's very lazy to compare Elysium to other L2s from the past. Robinhood Chain has generated a little over $50m in fees, of which $5m went to Arbitrum, and a whopping...$70k went to $ETH blob fees.
HyperEVM hyperliquid:native fees are burnt, whereas sequencer fees on Elysium go to kinetiq:native buys and builders (more on this later), but HyperEVM fees only account less than 1% of Hyperliquid total revenue. Papertrade is actually much more directly parasitic to hyperliquid:native; HyperEVM fees are peanuts even if Elysium vamped them entirely.
An under appreciated dynamic that a lot of people don't know is that HyperEVM USDC applies to AQAv2 hyperliquid:native revenue too, and USDC on Elysium will as well. Assuming the HyperEVM burns around $25k of hyperliquid:native a day, every additional $1b USDC that Elysium onboards in TVL would burn 4x that same amount due to AQAv2.
For reference, Solana has ~$7.5bn USDC and Base has $5b. Robinhood chain is predominantly USDG, which they monetize on, and ETH obviously gets nothing from. Imagine if Base contributed to $175m (3.5% of $5b) of value accrual to $ETH via their USDC TVL...maybe my $5k/7k $ETH calls would actually hit then 🙃
Beyond this, the entire selling point of Elysium is that it sits adjacent to HyperCore. propAMM's are functionally impossible on HyperEVM now due to the 1s block time (amongst other reasons). Additionally, on the HyperEVM, you can only read Hypercore price, not order book depth.
As a result, Solana does 25-50x the spot trading volume that Hypercore/HyperEVM handle. If Elysium can eat even a moderate chunk of on chain spot volume from Solana, especially in tokenized RWAs, the implications for corresponding hedging flows to Hyperliquid are enormous.
Elysium explicity enables net new flow and TVL to Hyperliquid, both of which are very accretive to hyperliquid:native itself. I would not be surprised if Elysium directly contributes an additional low 9 figure ARR for hyperliquid:native in 2027.
2. "L2's are bad investments and down only tokens"
As stated above, $ARB made about $5m so far from Robinhood Chain. Of that amount, a whopping...zero dollars made it to tokenholders. No buybacks, no burns, nothing.
50% of Elysium sequencer fees are directed at kinetiq:native buybacks. Even if you assume that Elysium only generates half the current sequencer fees of the current ghost town that is the HyperEVM, that'd still more than double their current revenue.
Currently, kinetiq:native buybacks as a % of market cap are about 1.5%, compared to 4-5% for hyperliquid:native. If Elysium generates only half of the sequencer fees of the current HyperEVM ($5m/yr), they'd be retiring token off the market at the same rate that hyperliquid:native does relative to market cap.
If Elysium can do closer to 50-75% of Base annualized sequencer fees ($30m), they'd be doing kinetiq:native buybacks at double the rate of hyperliquid:native as a % of market cap.
This is completely negating a likely increase in kHYPE TVL and other revenue streams (which there are numerous), like from launchpads like @AscendLaunch.
Ascend actually deserves their own section because they've commited to doing 30% of gross revenue as kinetiq:native buy/burns (50% to buys, 60% of that to burn). $PONS has generated $200m revenue in the last 2 months, but is currently only annualizing about $125m revenue, so we'll use a very conservative ~10% of the more conservative number. That'd add another $4m of kinetiq:native buybacks, which brings buyback yield/mcap well into the double digit %, over double hyperliquid:native.
3. "Why would there be activity on Elysium if there wasn't on the HyperEVM?"
Probably because the HyperEVM operates at the speed of smoke signals and has 0 support from Hyperliquid.
You have @Uniswap, @fomo, @Pumpfun etc all announcing integrations and deployments on Elysium day 1 after ignoring the HyperEVM all this time. @0xOmnia and the @Kinetiq_xyz team is putting on a master class in distribution, and you're seeing it play out this week.
Jeff and company are focusing on building the best perps platform in the world, and that's great, but this hands off approach has come at the expense of any support or curation of an on chain ecosystem.
That's left a massive gap that other chains have filled, but Elysium can bring all that activity back into the "house of all finance". Having a team that's fully dedicated to making this a reality will look nothing like the lack of attention the HyperEVM received.
4. "It'll be a flash in the pan memecoin chain and die out just like RHC activity has"
This is more speculative and it's hard to say. Elysium could have an epic and unsustainable PvElysium memecoin season by inheriting some of the wealth effect from both hyperliquid:native and kinetiq:native. Obviously this would absolutely moon kinetiq:native from sequencer fees/Ascend revenue, but that's shortlived.
Lively trenches aren't mutually exclusive with a real and innovative DeFi ecosystem though. As I mentioned before, Elysium will be uniquely able to plug in with, leverage, and read Hyperliquid orderbooks and liquidity. DeFi applications that couldn't be built anywhere else are made possible here.
A performant general purpose blockchain adjacent to HyperCore is the natural home to propAMM and HFT arbitrage against HIP3, which incentivizes deeply liquid spot RWA markets, which enables much higher LTV lending, which enables unique structured products and DeFi primitives to be built.
I do imagine that the trenches are built before more serious innovation comes about, but an important note here is that builders are getting 25% of sequencer fees as well. What builder wouldn't want to deploy on a new ecosystem, adjacent to the most successful app in crypto history, with a built in rev share agreement with the chain itself? Based on my conversations with Ascend and Montra, lots of serious teams want to build, not just memecoin deployers.
TLDR: It's not that complicated guys. kinetiq:native is a $120m mcap token that has a very clear path to buyback % yields multiples higher than hyperliquid:native, with an unprecedented ecosystem flywheel. It's both beta to hyperliquid:native and enhances the hyperliquid:native bull case. It might be the most asymmetric bet in crypto right now, and it's not conditional on some long shot thesis, just that there will be a large on chain ecosystem for the most important app in crypto.
Maybe it's a flop and a sell the news event on launch...or maybe it's all the best parts of Base/Hood sequencer fees combined with the revenue streams of $PUMP, $CAKE, solana:jtojtomepa8beP8AuQc6eXt5FriJwfFMwQx2v2f9mCL, ethereum:0x5a98fcbea516cf06857215779fd812ca3bef1b32 etc and heads towards billions of TVL and 9 figure annual revenue.
If you pattern match too hard to "L2 bad" or "HyperEVM sucks", it's from a place of being too 🏳️🌈🐻-pilled and/or lazy research.
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hmm both pump and fomo announced support for elysium on day one
if it's not a nothing burger like monad (i believe it's not) then $nest looks to be the most interesting case
imo token is lagging, cause hl liquidity was never interested in trading other projects coins on hyperevm, but metrics are at aths
and new liquidity might lead to repricing
even if it doesn't, i don't see much of a downside here since fdv is around tvl so id rather bid before nov 9
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