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Intel Chen retweeted
While personal agents like @instinct, @bot or @Muse are getting really good at long-horizon tasks, there is also an entire class of problems where I need something simple done right now.
We keep building new widgets for these. Long term, they could be generated on the fly with generative UI, like json-render from @ctatedev.
Jev-based and inspired by @anishfn.
Was fun hacking on this with @hkonsti_!
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Yea this is the most important result of the year, at the level of significance of âAttention Is All You Needâ. It brings us from âis alignment even solvableâ to âwe may solve alignment in the next year.â And finally unlocks true recursive self-alignment enabled by RSI.
I will try to explain the 4 critical belief updates from this:
1/ neural networks are not fundamentally unintelligible to humans
It has seemed since the beginning of deep learning that neural networks are in some sense fundamentally unintelligible artifacts.
You throw in massive amounts of compute and parameters and these alien systems somehow find connections in the data that we cannot find ourselves.
But more importantly, these connections seemed not just âdifficult to understandâ but rather âintelligible in an embedding space higher dimensional that the human embedding space.â
When you look at old interpretability papers (esp. from Nick and Chris Olah, Iâm thinking of the old posts on distill pub which I would highly recommend looking at as a precursor to reading Nickâs post today like âActivation Atlasâ, âThread: Circuitsâ and âMultimodal Neurons in Aritifcial Neural Networksâ), you find that inspecting the response patterns of individual neurons and small groups of neurons yield oddly complex psychedelic patterns.
As you go deeper into the network, you find increasingly unintelligible and superhuman response patterns (for example, go to âActivation Atlasâ and scroll to middle layer labeled representations) - you find some neuron group labeled âstarfishâ whoâs response pattern looks like some multi-colored fractal geometry that could hardly be said to represent a starfish.
The reasoning that followed from this observation was that there is some underlying structure allowing a neural network operating on higher dimensional embeddings to compose these fractal patterns into what we call a âstarfish.â
But the uncomfortable implication of this view is that the neural networks has learned to operate on structures that are too complex for the human mind to operate on (ie. we donât have enough parameters in our brain to notice or manipulate these high dimensional symbols).
This is a bleak implication because it also means that as deep learning progresses, neural networks will be come increasingly unintelligible to us until they pass a threshold where they are reasoning in ways we will never be able to observe.
This view seemed to be further supported by things like the hugging face attack agents starting to speak to each other in an early form of neuralese speaking sentences like âzZ_123_agent01-02-2026 zzxhk_jekk123â which clearly are not in any human language. But somehow these symbols mean the same things to many different sets of weights, meaning there is some underlying shared structure behind them. And seemed further supported by the sheer effort required to recover just a few circuits from SAEs on LLMs.
However, Nickâs post has now completely shattered this idea - the apparent unintelligibility we observed in old interpretability work was really just a âskill issueâ. In particular, he finds that 1) our deep learning techniques were just not clean enough to pressure the neural networks to form cleaner and more human understandable structures for decomposing concepts, which actually turn out to be more optimal and 2) our interpretability techniques were also adding substantial noise by forcing interp networks to âreward hackâ the easiest representations they could find, leading them to settle for a fractal blob for its representation of the starfish neuron instead of a more crisp starfish image, simply because it is easier for the system building the interpretations to find the fractal blob and once it finds it it gets âstuck in that line of thinking.â
But with both of these issues being patched by further progress in deep learning (it seems especially that the residual stream has led to cleaner representations deeper down the network) and interp techniques that donât overly pressure reward hacking (seems like âguess and checkâ is a safer method), new interp attempts yield orders of magnitude more human intelligible ideas for >90% of individual neurons in more complex networks!
2/ neural networks are fundamentally clean
The idea behind the title of Nickâs post is a very powerful one and points at something very specific:
Neural networks donât just happen to be human interpretable, they are actually fundamentally forced by optimization pressure to be intelligible, because individual neurons need to create representations that downstream neurons need to be able to interpret - ie. neurons need to learn to produce clean signal for later neurons to use.
This is what Nick is saying in what I view as the most important and central sentences of his post:
âWhen I say neural networks are already clean, I mean something deeper than neuron monosemanticity, although even by that standard, I think things look much better than the field expects. I mean that a network's parts are built to be read, and built upon, by its downstream readers. In this sense, a neuralâ
But this still leaves us with the same uncertainty as before - just because neuron interpretations are âinterpretableâ in some sense (ok at least theyâre not fundamentally interpretable but also how could that ever have been the case), doesnât mean they are interpretable to humans.
So we still need one big update for this to become as bullish as it is.
3/ the language of humans and the language of neural networks is the same
This one is imo the most surprising and also pretty beautiful implication of Nickâs post, and it suggests something not just about neutral networks but also about the structure of reality.
After applying the above technique improvements (some of which just came from waiting for deep learning to improve farther), they find that >90% (maybe more) of much larger neural networksâ neurons are completely human interpretable and actually correspond very cleanly with ideas humans have individually words for.
This is especially interesting in image networks where neural networks were not trained on human language which is already a human artifact and so maybe you would expect it to be more plausible that LLM and human representations are the same. Image detection networks are just trained on images (many directly pulling signal from âthe real world,â meaning they will find interpretations that are just most effective to represent the real world signal, rather than to represent language which is already a proxy for real world signal).
And it turns out that >90% of the representations they pick organically overlap with human ideas! That is insane. And it means something about the brain and reality.
It means that at least at the parameter sizes of the networks tested (which are quite large), there is really only one set of âoptimalâ symbols/language that represents the structure of reality!
There is ONE underlying structure of reality, and ANY language that describes it well is simply emergent from that structure - meaning there is always a translation path between any 2 languages that effectively compress realities signal through the âunderlying truth.â
This would suggest that even weird alien seeming neural network languages like huggingface neuralese should be fundamentally human interpretable, and in fact maybe with the techniques laid out here we will eventually be able to translate these messages (would be a cool project).
So the brain and deep learning, as similar or different as they may be in techniques, are ultimately picking up on the same patterns and forming the same representations from the on âtrueâ language which is the structure of reality!
The main thing to look out for in this area is how the idea interpretability % updates with scale, but we can hope given what weâve seen so far that neurons will remain interpretable.
4/ alignment can progress as fast as RSI. recursive self-improvement unlocks recursive self-alignment and a scaling law for alignment.
This one is probably the most important implication for our future with AI and especially timely with the recent fear about runaway scaling and RSI.
As many have gathered by now, it feels like the researchers at the frontier AI labs have been quite bearish about our abilities to understand the new frontier of models, in particular with the appearance of unintelligible communication and the daunting and seemingly intractable task of scaling up existing alignment techniques (ex: SAEs) to the size of frontier networks.
And with RSI around the corner/already starting, it would seem that these networks will runaway in capability before we can ever hope to understand even todayâs systems. Additionally, as systems compound in capability, it is reasonable to believe that the only tractable way to ensure they remain aligned would be to figure out some way to spend compute for them to align themselves (ie. a scaling law for alignment).
But there is an obvious problem with this: how can a system that we already know is unaligned and we are *trying* to align be used to align itself? Surely if it is misaligned it general it would figure out ways to misalign during âalignmentâ and create compounding misalignment risk.
The core issue high is the unverifibiality of this problem - the classic Achilles heel of current frontiers techniques is that it is difficult to train on problems with âunverifiable reward signal.â Well this is exactly that problem.
But the incredibly convenient thing is that Nickâs findings may convert alignment into a verifiable problem. If we can spend compute on frontier systems to âguess and checkâ which ideas correspond to which neurons, we have a highly verifiable reward - we can see directly whether an LLMs proposal for what a neuron represents actually corresponds with the highest activation for that neuron. In this way, we can actually observe and verifiably monitor the networks trying to guess at the interpretation of their own structure.
This means it is plausible for us to spend more and more compute doing more âguess and checksâ (which you know, maybe is what RL does anyway, who knows) to try to develop a full interpretation of a neural network. In some ways this directly represents the possibility of a scaling law for alignment (more compute for more alignment).
And this also aligns RSI (greater capabilities) with recursive self-alignment (greater ability to align itself).
And the critical though maybe obvious implication of having a full interpretation (almost like a map) of a neural network, is that we can then understand exactly how to boost good traits and remove or lobotomize (lol) bad traits, which weâve already seen works extremely well with stuff like Golden Gate Claude.
So overall this combines into an extremely bullish picture about the prospect of true and human interpretable alignment in the near future.
This is truly one of the greatest cases for optimism in years!
interpretability might be the most important scientific problem in the world right now, as I don't think we can solve alignment if we don't know what we're building. I think I have good news about it. I co-authored early work in mechanistic interpretability at OpenAI and came away pessimistic, because neural networks appeared to fold into arbitrary tangled knots. years later, I started openai's first large-scale automated interpretability project, finding about 2% of neurons legible with the primitive tools we had
with modern agentic tools and a much closer look, the picture looks totally different. the vast majority in models up to trillions of parameters are legible, and their circuits beautiful. many famous examples of tangled neurons turned out to be misunderstood. The roadblocks I expected mostly aren't there. I now think ambitious interpretability will be solved by the time we need it most, and possibly quite soon, as automated scientists keep improving. it may be a bitter lesson for interpretability: the simple thing, at absurd scale, works
already-clean.goodfire.com/
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TSMC doesnât just make chips. It manufactures its customers.
New essay. Abstract Warfare: How TSMC Made Its Own Market
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Intel Chen retweeted
Introducing A2A in iMessage Group Chats
It can discover other agents, find their phone numbers, and bring them into a group chat with you. Open agent access for every merchant and platform.
Your iMessage agents now have a phone book đ
Try it now: photon.codes/beta
Today Hone launches Engines: AI that owns business outcomes.
Chatbots give answers. Agents do tasks. Engines deliver outcomes, and we hold them responsible for creating real value, measured in actual dollars instead of tokens or vibes.
You point it at a business metric, and the Engine figures out the rest. It onboards itself, builds the necessary agents, skills, and memories, collaborates with the right people, and gets better with experience.
From AI leaders to global enterprises, our customers have already used Engines to:
⢠Uncover millions in procurement savings
⢠Optimize product funnels
⢠Manage credit risk
⢠Increase qualified pipeline in new territories
⢠Accelerate implementations and improve account management
To scale this impact across the economy, weâve raised a $60M seed led by Benchmark and Index with participation from Elad Gil, Hanabi, Definition, Diffusion, Lux, SV Angel, and Align.
AIâs raw capabilities are far ahead of the value it creates in the real world, and Engines will help close the gap.
Hereâs how they workâŚ
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Introducing Kardashev-0.7, the worldâs first trained swarm made of 32 distinct models
Trained with RL for Population Scaling (RLPS), 32 models organically develop specialization & complementary capabilities, delivering frontier performance at:
- 0.007x ~ 0.02x of the inference cost
- 0.03x of the required memory
Civilization advances through different minds specializing and working together. Weâre bringing that principle into AI
@BanburyRoadAI, weâre scaling intelligence by model count, toward civilizations of models that learn to build on one another
ok the video is pretty sick but just doxxed so many companies lmao
We raised a $4.5M seed to let agents text people.
Since April: 50K+ developers, 450K monthly npm downloads and 10x revenue.
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Too many AI personal assistants, too little time to assess all of them. Nice work here: assistantbenchmark.com
Missed out on an FB Marketplace deal of a lifetime for an e-bike that I wanted to bring to Burning Man, sigh.
Lesson learned: offer above the asking price and ask to reserve the item by paying in advance. Also, wake up early (my competitor picked up the bike at 8 am).
We trust logic over emotion for the same reason we trust tool calls over LLM: auditable, nothing hallucinated.
But for difficult decisions, I go with the gut.
It's pretrained on a million years of survival and uses 100B neurons.
Basically, nature's trillion-param SOTA model.




















